(06-16-2024, 09:10 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(06-16-2024, 08:47 AM)Sneakers Wrote: I have no idea what the point was, and I doubt even Trump had any specific reason.  In his mind the election was "stolen", probably in part because his ego couldn't acknowledge a loss.  Maybe he was anticipating a 2024 campaign and wanted to maintain his image as the presumptive nominee.  Are there any politicians who don't love getting in front of a crowd whenever the opportunity presents itself?

If you want to assume the actual end result was the direct intent of the organizer, what are we to assume about the BLM rallies in Minneapolis and Fergusen? 

The rally itself is not a smoking gun.

I'll play that game.
Name a person who instigated/started any dangerous riot in Minneapolis or Ferguson.
Name the government building and government function their unlawful riot disrupted.

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(06-16-2024, 09:06 AM)Sneakers Wrote: Disqualifying for your vote is fine, but not for the right to seek and hold office.

It wasn't leadership, it was a complete absence thereof.  He sat in the White House (presumably watching the event on TV, or at least briefed on it) like a petulant child, however Capital security was not his responsibility.  Pelosi's failure before and during the event was abysmal. 

The "moment" to which you refer is far more critical in your mind, than it was in reality.

Nah dude.  

• "The President is commander in chief of the army and Navy if the United States and of the militia of the several states, when called into actual service of the United States".
  

I don't see anything in there about Congress being in charge of its own security.
Also, even if they were, it was Trump's mob.  They went out when he sent them and didn't go home until he told them to. Even if I forgive him for sending the mob, even if I give him the benefit of the doubt "Trump didn't realize they would get violent," I don't see a way to excuse how he waited three hours before telling them to go home.

The actual identity of the organizers of those events is irrelevant.  The point is that any rally/protest may be formed with only the best intentions, only to have the event erupt into violence through the actions of others.  Does that automatically make the original organizer culpable or part of a conspiracy?  That's the standard you're holding Trump to.

A disrupted government function?  What planet were you living on?  Here's a thousand words.



I don't excuse the delay in telling them to go home.  As previously stated, it was terrible leadership, but that is NOT a criminal offense.

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