(07-06-2024, 01:59 PM)Caldrac Wrote:

(07-06-2024, 01:23 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: What I believed 4 years ago seems to still be the case. The DNC knew it had a problem with Biden becoming the face of the party but they also knew they weren't going to beat Trump in the election. They basically forfeited Trump's second term by manipulating Biden to the top of the ticket then realized they could get rid of Harris by attaching her there as well. Kill two political thorns with a single stroke by offering them up to the Trump machine. Then the pandemic took the turn it did and they found a perfect opportunity to steal the election with their manufactured mail in ballot scheme. Unfortunately for them they seized the Presidency then completely failed the nation while in leadership, failed to eliminate Trump as a viable candidate, AND are now stuck with an untenable executive pair who are neither one capable of winning in November. It was a terrible move to win Biden the Oval Office, all that did was ruin their party's reputation and create an internal civil war over the top of the ticket this year. If the Republicans were worth a [BLEEP] as a party this would be a "40 years in the wilderness" moment for the Dems, but they're just spineless and pathetic on the whole, which is the only real reason I believe that Mikesez might actually be a Republican. Now they have to figure out how to overcome an 8% margin, much more difficult to fake than just the 2% Trump win they had to overcome last time.

They have had since 2016 to cultivate a winning culture, to build momentum, create a viable candidate or two for this race now. They have nobody but themselves to blame. Enjoying the political cannibalism taking place now within their ranks. It was overdue and no party deserves it more. 

The Republicans are fixing to face the same exact situation in 2028. Once the MAGA crowd rides out it's 2nd term with Trump, it'll be hard to sway them to stick around unless they're appeased by a new face with some of the same ideology. Vivek? Maybe. DeSantis? Maybe. 

A lot can change in four years though. Even some of the people that were gung ho about Trump in 2016 are not as thrilled about voting for him again in 2024. He's not the same candidate he was eight years ago, and, naturally, he's also eight years older. 

I think of the grumblings I have seen personally with Trump, people are going to vote for him, because they have hopes with the economy improving and global tensions dwindling, but, there's some concerns with him not getting it done at the border and there's some concerns with him openly removing himself recently from Project 2025 publicly which does not sit well with true right wing conservatives. 

It'll be interesting moving forward after this next election and four years are over with. A viable third party coming on strong with actual staying power and a legitimate candidate with a chance at the table would be nice to see though. Would fully support a level headed third party candidate that isn't too liberal, isn't too conservative and is willing to be held accountable and hold those around them accountable. 

Especially if it means our nation becoming more Nationalist in nature and less Globalist influenced.