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The Plan to fix things

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(09-24-2024, 08:52 AM)mikesez Wrote: Exactly what I said.
Firing people now does no good.
Leave them in place and hire consultants to figure out what's wrong in the organization and start the off-season with a plan.

This was already tried and Baalke, I believe, leaked or reported it to the league to get it stopped. The Jags already tried to hire him before to be the VP. Without the snake's head chopped off, it's going to keep surviving. Baalke would find some way to still be employed.

(09-25-2024, 06:48 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on hiring Mike Vrabel as HC? I floated this question in another thread but no response. I thought Strunk pulled the pin too soon.

(09-25-2024, 07:37 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(09-25-2024, 06:48 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on hiring Mike Vrabel as HC? I floated this question in another thread but no response. I thought Strunk pulled the pin too soon.

I'd rather find a young OC from an established coaching tree.  But Vrabel always seemed like a good HC that was hand-cuffed by a mediocre QB.  But his specialty is defense.  Who would he bring in to fix Lawrence?  That's the thing about getting a Defensive minded HC.



(09-25-2024, 08:44 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(09-25-2024, 08:23 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: People could be brought in to help Lawrence. I like Vrabel because he's a good tactician and also brings that jock energy which motivates a team. I think Trevor would respond well. 

Anyway, I believe he's a viable candidate if Doug doesn't pull out of this dive soon. My opinion is Doug is done. He's a coach with a short shelf life who burns out quickly and I think that's what we're seeing here. His behavior resembles depression in some ways. Judgements of that sort are way beyond my purview, but that's the vibe I get.

Do you think Vrabel would allow someone to really run the offense all on his own?  Or do you think he'd influence the offense to be run heavy?

That would be my concern.  A Defense minded HC is going to want to hand-cuff the offense to just manage the game.  That is my concern about all these D-Minded coaches.

Look at what's happening with Caleb.  Caleb is supposed to be the next Prince that was Promised.  And he looks like trash.  I'd just rather find a HC that is going to focus on fixing Lawrence, and then get a GM that isn't a complete jerk store.

This isn't a rebuild kinda thing, in my opinion.  It's just a re-tool situation.  Dump Baalke, dump Pederson and his stooges, and get hungry folks that look at Jacksonville as an opportunity instead of a retirement check.

Vrabel is fine as a HC but he can't win on his own. The only way he will be successful is turning the offense over to a top OC. Whatever the Jags do, they need to hire the best OC they can. If the HC is a Vrabel type, VP controls the picks, and the Jags hire the best OC they can find, it may work.

I would be looking to pay the OC HC-1A money. As long as they are fine without the win/loss on their name, everyone would know they control the offense. It probably wouldn't work with egos, but it could make a great coaching staff.

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The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-23-2024, 10:17 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by MyBloodIsTeal - 09-23-2024, 10:22 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-23-2024, 10:27 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by StrayaJag - 09-23-2024, 10:29 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Jagsman - 09-23-2024, 10:29 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Charlie Sheen - 09-23-2024, 10:30 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-23-2024, 10:33 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Jag88 - 09-23-2024, 10:38 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by nhiverson - 09-23-2024, 10:38 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-23-2024, 10:43 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by TDOSS - 09-23-2024, 10:49 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by JagCard - 09-24-2024, 10:17 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Cleatwood - 09-23-2024, 10:29 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-24-2024, 12:20 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by The_Franchise_QB - 09-23-2024, 11:26 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Jagulars - 09-23-2024, 11:36 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Jag88 - 09-23-2024, 11:58 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by StroudCrowd1 - 09-23-2024, 11:39 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by cland - 09-23-2024, 11:51 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by JaguarJosh2 - 09-23-2024, 11:52 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by rpr52121 - 09-24-2024, 12:03 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by iHaunting Raven - 09-24-2024, 12:15 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Lucky2Last - 09-24-2024, 12:28 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-24-2024, 12:34 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by rpr52121 - 09-24-2024, 01:34 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by MikePete54 - 09-24-2024, 07:23 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by The Real Marty - 09-24-2024, 06:58 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by g1ml3t - 09-24-2024, 07:02 AM
The Plan to fix things - by Caldrac - 09-24-2024, 07:03 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by flgatorsandjags - 09-24-2024, 07:12 AM
The Plan to fix things - by I am Yoda - 09-24-2024, 07:26 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by StroudCrowd1 - 09-24-2024, 07:26 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by mikesez - 09-24-2024, 07:30 AM
The Plan to fix things - by I am Yoda - 09-24-2024, 07:31 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by PV=nRT - 09-24-2024, 07:45 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Mikey - 09-24-2024, 10:13 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by snowwolf776 - 09-24-2024, 07:53 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by StroudCrowd1 - 09-24-2024, 07:56 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by flsprtsgod - 09-24-2024, 07:58 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Caldrac - 09-24-2024, 08:02 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by flsprtsgod - 09-24-2024, 08:03 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Caldrac - 09-24-2024, 08:16 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by homebiscuit - 09-24-2024, 08:43 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Caldrac - 09-24-2024, 08:47 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by mikesez - 09-24-2024, 08:52 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-24-2024, 05:48 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by snowwolf776 - 09-24-2024, 08:31 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by flsprtsgod - 09-24-2024, 08:35 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Caldrac - 09-24-2024, 07:58 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by homebiscuit - 09-24-2024, 08:08 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by MoJagFan - 09-24-2024, 08:51 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by flgatorsandjags - 09-24-2024, 09:10 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Rockman1966 - 09-24-2024, 08:57 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-24-2024, 09:18 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Caldrac - 09-24-2024, 09:20 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by flgatorsandjags - 09-24-2024, 09:39 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by jaglou53 - 09-24-2024, 01:29 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by cland - 09-24-2024, 02:26 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by jaglou53 - 09-24-2024, 03:25 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by enigma - 09-24-2024, 03:31 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-24-2024, 03:29 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Caldrac - 09-24-2024, 03:31 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by flsprtsgod - 09-24-2024, 04:38 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by rpr52121 - 09-24-2024, 07:16 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Newton - 09-24-2024, 10:27 AM
The Plan to fix things - by I am Yoda - 09-24-2024, 10:43 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by WingerDinger - 09-24-2024, 10:44 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by NYC4jags - 09-24-2024, 06:03 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Mikey - 09-25-2024, 08:04 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by flsprtsgod - 09-25-2024, 08:18 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by homebiscuit - 09-24-2024, 06:58 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by captivating - 09-24-2024, 07:19 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-25-2024, 05:59 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Caldrac - 09-24-2024, 07:27 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Jagulars - 09-25-2024, 01:10 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by jaglou53 - 09-25-2024, 03:42 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Jag149 - 09-25-2024, 03:29 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by homebiscuit - 09-25-2024, 06:48 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by mikesez - 09-25-2024, 06:56 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by OG-JAGFAN - 09-25-2024, 07:30 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by carp8dm - 09-25-2024, 07:37 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by homebiscuit - 09-25-2024, 08:23 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by carp8dm - 09-25-2024, 08:44 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by Jaguarmeister - 09-25-2024, 07:45 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by TDOSS - 09-25-2024, 10:48 PM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by NewJagsCity - 09-26-2024, 12:25 AM
RE: The Plan to fix things - by p_rushing - 09-26-2024, 12:49 AM



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