(09-26-2024, 04:52 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:

(09-26-2024, 04:32 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: The main issue there are too man deficiencies that Trevor Lawrence has in his game.  You stated yourself with all those number points that he has to be in the right situation to succeed. The great ones do not need everything to be perfect around them to succeed. Lets cut through all the BS and call it like it is.  Trevor Lawrence is a below average player with Elite Player Talent. His career is at a crossroads right now.  He either rises to the occasion or he does not. I would not be saying this if he were playing well and the rest of the team is a trainwreck.  He is just as bad as a trainwreck as the rest of the team currently. You can't have it both ways.  You can't call him "the prince that was promised" meaning he will deliver us a good football team and then say he needs X,Y,Z, 1, 2, 3 to be successful.  I have watched the NFL over 30 years and know good QB's when I see them. Lawrence currently is not it. He has the potential but the NFL has a line miles long of PLayers will Lots of talent but never lived up to it.  If he starts playing better and showing  that potential I will eat my crow and be happy about it.  Let me know when that happens.

*I also do not mean one game.  I know if Trevor has one good 300 yard game the fans are just going to be drooling I told you so comments.  I want to see it over a time frame and consistent like real NFL franchise QB's does.  In his career, his TD and Yards are much lower than the elite QBs.

There have been maybe 20-25 "great ones" that you talk about in the history of the Super Bowl Era. If that is the kind of luck you are waiting on, you will be waiting your entire lifetime. You would be better off rooting for the elite quarterback(s) of every era rather than any single team.

I'm not asking for "great ones" I will take a good QB.   He's not even good.

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(09-26-2024, 05:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: QB rankings

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-we...ter-top-10

The irony is Minshew is ranked above him.

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(09-26-2024, 05:04 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(09-26-2024, 04:40 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: Look at this.



The offensive line does their job and there is a really clean pocket

There is a wide receiver running wide open in the route

Lawrence steps up and sails it 3 yards over the receivers head

Cmon man, the excuses are getting old.


https://youtu.be/rxrmmlJ4kxQ?si=VT5-Ym8mAnXrDPY7

Meh

He sailed a ball. He's done that 3 or 4 times this year on 89 attempts. That one happened to be gift wrapped to a safety. There's no excuse for it but it isn't some common mistake he's making these days. 

I'm more worried about him not making more reads before release and his new tendency to leave the pocket instead of navigating pressure within the pocket. 

He's leaving some makable plays out there right now by not getting through his progression or being stubborn about hitting the deepest target. 

He's got to improve, but that play is pretty bad example. It's an outlier.

Really dude?  Are you going to ignore the 5 balls a game he should throw better?  Listen if you want to drink the koolaid that is your business but don't try to make me drink it.  That was one example of many I could show in every game.  Remember the INT he almost threw in Miami right to the defender, How about the other in Cleveland?  He leads the League in Turnovers since he was drafted.  Nuff said!

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