(10-21-2024, 10:09 AM)Jag149 Wrote: (10-21-2024, 09:12 AM)Mikey Wrote: The best team the Stillers have beat this year is probably the failcons.
But to better answer your question, the teams/coaches you pointed to have a clear identity. It allows the team to focus their attention to players that fit their mold, and keep building on a proven system. Doesn't hurt that sold out stadia reduce the pressure of casual or fair-weather fans calling for quick changes when anything starts to go south. In the face of disappointment, ownership stays with their coaches and systems because they trust it to work out even if a year or two is down (Hi there, Kenny Pickett!). They don't HAVE to swing for the fences. They can be patient. Look at GB, you have Favre, but Rodgers slides down the board, so grab him and give him a year or two to learn the ropes. Repeat the process with Love.
You don't see them making radical changes every time something doesn't come up roses.
I was going to save my response for the end of thread once I read all the responses, but I think a lot of fans are misguided, too, thinking that if we can GM and/or coach, that we'll immediately be punching our card for the postseason right out the gate. Truth is you aren't going to fire the current group just to bring guys in that are going to build on the foundation they've already established. You're going to change things up. To do that, you're going to modify philosophy. You're going to clean out the roster and build anew. That's gonna come with some wrinkles. In the long run, it could be good, it could undo progress you're seeing made. I have a feeling upheaval will come with growing pains.
We are capable of being a consistent playoff team today. We just have to look at those consistent playoff teams and mimic them - get your identity, and build on it. If we are building an offense that caters to a Tank, don't darft a scatback and wonder why he can't also get 7 YPC barreling into a crowded interior. If you're looking to build a deep passing game, get some monsters that are going to be able to hold a block longer than a finesse blocking system would allow. If we are a blitz-first D, find guys that can cover one-on-one and linemen that can eat blocks to free your speedy blitzers. RFC said it well, too often we haven't had our identity and just started assembling a mishmash of best available players without regard to how they fit into our plans. I get that we paid Trevor a king's ransom to be our future, but if our success comes by being a road-grading, clock-eating, run-first group of slobberknockers, let's do that and put our butts in the tournament every year. I don't know if the current coaches and GM are capable of getting us there, but I also doubt that a regime change will result in immediate fortunes, too.
The key to the teams you mentioned is the OWNER has the vision of what he wants. He hires a coach to execute that. You do not hire a coach and let him execute his vision.
I believe Kahn has begun to understand that.
At the end of the day football is a physical game. Anyone who tells you different is blowing smoke up your skirt. Facing someone like this I would put one hand on my wallet, keep my back to the wall and politely excuse myself. On 3rd and 1 whoever is the biggest, baddest and more physical wins.
Really?
So you think Rooney is telling Tomlin what scheme to run?
You think Sheila Ford is telling Dan Campbell what his coaching philosophy should be?
You think the Hunt family sat down Andy Reid and told him what he'd do differently in KC opposed to Philly?
I think the typical methodology is for an owner to hire a GM he trusts well enough to lead the HC hiring process and convince the owner of who the right coach would be for their roster and its development/augmentation.
Then that coach should absolutely be left to bring their vision of the team to reality.
If they can't - you got the wrong coach or couldn't get him enough viable pieces.
Having an owner dictate to a FO and coach what the team's identity is going to be sounds like a Jerry Jones and Jim Irsay prescription drug fueled nightmare.
