(10-29-2024, 07:18 PM)carp8dm Wrote: (10-29-2024, 07:08 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Herbert is better by a country mile?!? Wow. That's a BOLD take right there. What exactly has Herbert done with a much better roster? Trevor literally beat him in the playoffs. This is what I find so crazy. People are more than willing to ignore all the negatives of other QB's but we judge ours purely on those. Such a grass is greener attitude at times on here.
I mean we were up 14 against the Colts, surprisingly the D gave up 2 TD scores in 3 minutes and Trevor takes us down the field for the game winning FG. We were down 10 in the 4th Q Sunday and Trevor drove down for a game tieing TD with backup WR's and then the D gave up a huge drive. Hell he came back from 27 points down to beat Herbert, who's better by a country mile
Saying he makes 'game losing plays'. That right there is what's wrong with people's insistence on blaming every L on Trevor. He doesn't win games with one play and he doesn't lose games with one play. It's a team game, all 3 phases play a part over 60 minutes.
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, Trevor is not even in the top 20 problems we have right now.
Preach.
The complete meltdown by some die hards, who are respected posters is the result of a poorly managed roster. Caldrac and many others want to blame the players when it's clear that the coaching is completely failing us. Not just the coaching, but the GM too.
But to flail around and try to blame our QB, a QB that has done so well this season is complete PTSD. This fanbase, me included, have all lost our minds. It's just a complete [BLEEP] show. But to blame Lawrence for the fact that this organization has failed him shows how crazy things have gotten.
I just want back the week 3 Caldrac.... The guy that had positive things to say. Come back, bro. It's not Lawrence. It's management. It's been management for the last 2 seasons.
I can understand the meltdown. The Urban experience was brutal. Doug comes in, we have a magical run and a playoff win. Start the next year 8-3 and it looked like finally, FINALLY we had turned the corner. Then the collapse happened and we discussed to death the reasons why it happened but this year was supposed to be an angry team and a hungry team that would set the record straight.
And we are right back in the [BLEEP] times again. How? How did it happen? It's Doug, it's Baalke, it's Trevor, it's the players. We're all at a loss as to how the season has gone like this. Fans are angry, they're frustrated, they want to point fingers, they want a fall guy.
Personally, I'm so angry with the D but I can't for the life of me work out what the exact problem is. Is it Nielsen? Is it the system? The players? Execution? 'Bigger and stronger'? Effort? Locker room issues? All of the above? I'm just left scratching my head at how it's got like this.
But your completely right when you say it's Trevor that almost automatically becomes the 'reason' we lost. Any mistake or missed play was huge and something we struggled to overcome. Everyone makes a mistake at some point. Drops, penalties, fumbles, broken tackles, blown coverages, it all contributes but Trevor time and time again becomes the first thing we need to talk about.
The frustrating thing for me is look at the amount of pages the Lawrence thread gets when we win. Maybe 2 or 3. After an L? Pushing 10-15.
(10-29-2024, 07:28 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: (10-29-2024, 07:18 PM)carp8dm Wrote: Come back, bro. It's not Lawrence. It's management. It's been management for the last 2 seasons.
Some of you are cult like in your love for Lawrence.
You've always been fair when analysing Trevor remember!!
Ridiculous.
