(01-13-2025, 06:11 PM)cland Wrote:

(01-13-2025, 04:52 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: I agree with all of this. 

Being more creative with the playcalling could have helped a bit, but that would have been exposed too at some point. And the run blocking killed so many opportunities and allowed defenses to focus elsewhere. 

Piggybacking on what you said about having freedom and function for Lawrence, I'd add that Pederson (after the 2022 season) announced he'd be taking input from TL and reworking the playbook to suit his strengths. 

I am firmly of the opinion that this is when began turning south. 

Not because of Lawrence's input, but because Pederson identified that Lawrence had a bad habit of staring down one guy sometimes, and maybe only making two reads at other times, or making multiple reads to only one side of the field. He didn't do this all the time, but he did it too often IMO. 

They collectively rearranged the playbook to try and give Lawrence more reads to one side, inserted more one read plays, and essentially took away a ton of options from the kid trying to suit his bad habit instead of DEVELOPING his ability to go through his progression in 2.3 seconds. 
It was a major mistake. 
This is where all of those "why are there two receivers in the same place" play came from. This is when we saw the emergence of the plethora of low percentage throws being forced. 

I realize there is some speculation in my opinion here, but there is also a lot of analysis, I assure you. 
 And that is what I believe happened.

Why are you talking about something that only applies to maybe 10% of the pass plays Trevor misses on?     It's okay, I'm a man of patience, it only took you 3 years to get here.

I think we'll see with the next coach whether Pederson's simplifying the offense to partial reads was a failure to teach Trevor, or was an innate short-coming with the QB's skillset.

A few things here:

1. I thought of you when I posted that and expected a response because I recall that convo

2. Trevor's tape has plenty of great examples of him scanning the entire field, looking off safeties and alerting receivers to hot routes etc. - Even if he was also showing the bad habits I described at other times.

  -- My point  (that you are mostly missing whilst focused on trying to take a false victory lap) is that this stuff changed for the worse after the 2022 season when the Jags offensive braintrust decided to alter course with how they tasked him to read the field. Instead of trying to develop the good stuff he was putting on tape, they focused on mitigating the mistakes. 
 
I think that's where Pederson screwed up. 

Mitigating mistakes is how you handle a QB like Blake Bortles, Case Keenum or David Mills.
Developing talent is how you handle a QB like CJ Stroud or Trevor Lawrence. 

And yes, I have watched more tape since that post - and I do think Trevor shows these bad habits more frequently than I thought he did a year ago. 
But having watched the all22 route running from 2023 and 2024 - it's pretty clear to me that the staff handcuffed him instead of growing him.

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