(01-15-2025, 07:19 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(01-15-2025, 05:34 PM)cland Wrote: And we're back at it.




From PFF: Trevor Lawrence, quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars, had an average time to throw of 2.63 seconds. This ranked him fourth among the top 10 NFL quarterbacks by time to throw. He DID have more time this year, and the issue did NOT go away, and clearly the conversation did not go away...

Bad stat.
Lawrence's "time to throw"  was 2.4 seconds per pass drop in 2024
- 2023 was 2.2  - so he got .2 seconds more.

Okay, you wanted an increase of .25 seconds, and you only got .2 seconds.  Did the missing 5 hundredths of a second prevent him from fixing the issue, or stop the conversation from going away? 

It might have helped if it weren't for all the other points being made that are flying over your thick head.
Go ahead and look up the number of PA downfield attempts in 24 vs 23 and let me know if you can wrap your head around how that affected the difference in release time

Wow 

You really are [BLEEP] dumb , huh? 

OK the answer was literally right in front of you and all you had to do was read and comprehend. 

The play action (clearly I should have never abbreviated that thinking you'd know a damn thing about football) - the p.lay a.ction deep ball attempts quadrupled from 2023 to 2024.

Think about that for like 10 or 20 seconds. 

What I need you to absorb is the time required for a receiver to run 10 yards versus the time required for a receiver to run 40 yards. Can you picture that? Can you imagine how .2 seconds fits into that variation?

Are you starting to understand the difference in release time from 2023 to 2024 because Trevor Lawrence held the ball that much longer in 2024 because that was the called play by an exponential increase? 

Do you figure he had .2 more seconds because he was faking a handoff and rolling to sling it deep 4 times more often that the year prior?? 

Holy hell, man. 

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NYC4Jags Wrote:[From Jan 2024]

Give the kid another 1/4 second to process reads behind a line he can actually trust so he doesn't speed up the internal clock - and this conversation goes away completely.

I don't see any 'unless they run play action more' in your post--so, in some ways, you're arguing against the point that YOU made.  I understand that running play-action increases the time to throw, but what about the non-PA plays.  Did he have less throwing time, or did his throwing time go down during those plays?  The vast majority of fans here agree that the Oline in 2024 is better than one in 2023, and I understand that their last half of the season was better than their first half, but this plays into your "behind a line he can trust" comment.

The question is how did Lawrence regress in several metrics (His accuracy was down 5 percentage points, and his passer rating dropped by 3) in 2024 from 2023?

Here's what Press Taylor (and again I agree that he's also terrible) had to say about accuracy early in the season:

“I think completion percentage and accuracy can be different at times,” Taylor said. I think I understand what you're saying with it. You take into account drops and throwaways, that's going to make it look like you are not accurate, quote-unquote, but I don't know if that's necessarily the case. 

“There have been times we missed some throws, whether that be timing, pressure, timing, and routes, or constricted field space in the red zone. I think those come into play as well.”

Is that all there is to it?

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