(05-04-2025, 06:18 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(05-04-2025, 02:41 PM)Sneakers Wrote: Illegal immigrants only have protection under the 5th and 14th from imprisonment in the U.S.  We cannot and should not be responsible for the criminal justice systems in other countries.  If an illegal doesn't want to take the risk of deportation to his/her country of origin, perhaps he/she should not come here.

Forget what the Leftist media is telling you to believe and think it through on your own for once and tell me where your argument ends.   We offer trial by jury; can we deport to a country that holds trial by judge?  What's the definition of due process and who offers it to our standards?  Does Italy qualify?  Amand Knox would say no.

Finally you're asking the real questions!
It may not always be clear cut which countries offer due process to criminals and which don't.  While a jury is a key part of our system, most of the world uses Napoleonic based systems that don't rely on juries.  Napoleonic systems can easily be corrupted, but so can jury based systems, most famously in the Jim Crow South.  Suppose there was a foreign country operating somewhere on earth that was an exact copy of Mississippi in the 1930s. It might be OK to deport a white person back to such a place, but not a black person.  We would have to judge it case by case, we would have to develop guidelines.  
It's above my pay grade, and it's above yours.
Immigration judges work on this stuff every day and they know what to do.

And as usual, you're unable to provide any substantive answers.  Millions of immigrants and the best you can suggest is to evaluate countries acceptable for deportation on a case-by-case basis.  LOL, they'll die of old age before their cases are heard.  Will they be jailed pending their hearings?  Will they be represented by legal counsel?  Do you have a vision of your own, or are you just regurgitating the party rhetoric?

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