(06-02-2025, 01:38 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(06-02-2025, 12:51 PM)Jag149 Wrote: The bold I am assuming is an opinion. In real life that dog just doesn't hunt. Study your biology and see the development differences of males/females as they go thru puberty. If they are XY they should never be allowed to compete against females.  Anyone who argues different is full of it and I would ask why do you hate women? Also, as far as the "compromise" in California. I would agree the trans could compete against the MEN not the women and be given award based on their finish there. Of course they may not be the first to cross the line.....maybe that at the end of the day is their issue...

The bolded is literally me telling you what the rules in track and field are. Not my opinion.

I agree that being previously male, especially during and after puberty, confers advantages that don't go away after hormone treatment, however, if it's not a contact sport, and they're not taking away anyone's medal, who cares? Who is harmed? 

No one wants to allow puberty blockers or hormone treatments before age 18 either, so they are forced to go through that male puberty whether they want to or not, then you refuse to allow participation with women after completing hormone treatment. So they have no option at all to deal with a condition that most of them did not chose. 

It comes across as mean spirited and seems to have nothing to do with women's rights or the integrity of the sport.  If you just don't like intersex people, that's fine, but it's your problem, not theirs.

Do you think the physical advantages of male development just disappear in non-contact sports?  Here's a stat that might help you understand, the women's mile run world record is 4 minutes, 7.64 sec., set in 2023.  Meanwhile, the 4-minute mark has been broken 22 times in the last ten years by high school males alone.

Who is harmed?  How about every female who finishes behind the biological male, regardless of medal status.  What about those who were beat out in the qualifying event and never got the chance to compete, or didn't make the roster in team sports?

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