Eli, Big Ben, and Rivers were/are never elites -- they are true franchise QBs. There has to be a consensus if they were deem as elites. Brees is the lesser of the big four QBs, but no one ever question whether or not he is elite.


Ryan and Flacco -- no, they are not elites (and I doubt they will ever be considered as elites) -- have been in the league for much longer than Newton, Kaep and Dalton. Both Newton and Dalton have better stats than Ryan in their first three seasons; Kaep has accomplished just as much as Flacco did in the post-seasons in their first three years.


With the exception of the 2012 class, give me a draft class that was considered better than the 2011 class in the last decade (or since 2004).

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