Quote:The elites are liberal the mainstream is moderate at best. In reality Murdoch who owns fox is not a conservative and truth be told Fox News isn't even a conservative network they constantly trump big government. Fox News is what I call controlled oposition while msnbc is straight propaganda.


But for your comment the mainstream is liberal that's just simply not true.

 

DF has a skewed view of what's happening in the US, not knocking it but Europeans are socialists and the idea that that the US mainstream is liberal is way too easy.  In the US, the mainstream is polarized.  Moderates are squeezed into an every shrinking middle.  Even the neo-Libertarianism movement these days is essentially a new flavor of extreme right wing conservatism.  True Libertarians don't try to regulate freedom of thought for example.  Ironically the ACLU is at it's heart Jefferson Libertarianism although they've taken the concept and distorted it beyond recognition.  If I sound like I have little hope for our country, it's because I don't.  I see the US in 100 years as a socialist state run either by a large crime syndicate or by big business.

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