Quote:Sure if welfare wasn't being funded by the remainder of the working class and they where simply leaving the market and sustaining themselves your argument might have a leg to stand on. that's not the case, the welfare doesn't come from a magical government tree fund, it's funded through the taxation on the remainder of the working class. Welfare isn't the equivalent of older generations leaving the workforce to make room for new generations, your argument is flawed on so many levels it's to frustrating to get into.

 

It's not shrinking when people collect welfare over working, they're still being "paid" still have a net cost on the economy, they're just not producing anything.

 

We already have welfare, but currently it functions in multiple nonsensical parts of the market.

 

First there's the work for welfare stuff that serves as a way to inflate the labor market and depress wages from the start, then there's also the fact that it functions as a subsidy for big business to pay lower wages.

 

Second is that it's applied through corporate subsidies, things like fossil fuel subsidies. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014...tax-breaks

 

Of course something else that needs to be done in concurrency to welfare reform to make it a free ride instead of a corporate subsidy is removal of all free trade agreements and restoration of tariffs for all items by default with free trade only to occur for import of raw materials to be used in manufacture.

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