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Forget the Bridgewater talk --- who do you take @ #2


Quote:I added the fact that eite defenses allowed non-elite quarterbacks to win Super Bowls. The 2000 Ravens had the best defense is NFL history. No Super Bowl team won the big game with an average quarterback and a sucky defense. Here is proof an elite quarterback is extremely important to get to the Super Bowl most of the time:

 

Bart Starr (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 2 of 2

Joe Namath (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 1 of 1

Roger Stabauch (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 1 of 1

Terry Bradshaw (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 4 of 4

Bob Griese (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 2 of 2

Ken Stabler (probably the best Raider to wear #12)

Jim McMahon (Hall of Famer?) - 1 of 1

Joe Montana (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 4 of 4

Phil Simms (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 1 of 1

Troy Aikman (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 3 of 3

Steve Young (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 1 of 1

Brett Favre (future Hall of Famer, number will be retired) - 1 of 2

John Elway (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 2 of 5

Kurt Warner (Pro Bowler) - 1 of 3

Tom Brady (future Hall of Famer) - 3 of 4

Ben Roethlisberger (Pro Bowler) - 2 of 3

Peyton Manning (future Hall of Famer) - 1 of 2

Aaron Rodgers (Pro Bowler) - 1 of 1

Drew Brees (future Hall of Famer) 1 of 1

Eli Manning (Pro Bowl starter) - 2 of 2

 

In addition, here are some Super Bowl losing quarterbacks:

 

Fran Tarkenton (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 0 of 4

Dan Marino (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 0 of 1

Jim Kelly (Hall of Famer, number retired) - 0 of 4

 

Obviously, you can count the non-elite quarterbacks who played in the Super Bowl (win or lose) with one hand. I only know two  who won: Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. If you don't think every quarterback listed here is elite, well, admit some of them are pretty close to elite.
Let me preface by expressing my extreme reluctance to respond on many different levels I won't explain here.

 

If these numbers are a listing of Super Bowls played/won by these QBs, then your Staubach numbers are wrong.  Staubach won two Super Bowls (VI, and XII) and played in four (VI, X, XII, and XIII).

 

For that matter, Bob Griese played in three Super Bowls (VI, VII & VIII) and won two (VII & VIII)

 

There is NO WAY McMahon sniffs the Hall of Fame.

 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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Forget the Bridgewater talk --- who do you take @ #2 - by Bullseye - 10-27-2013, 09:46 AM



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