Quote:You absolutely got my point, ytraM.  Only, I won't say we are unique - as acknowledged, it happens to every team - but proficient, in getting rid of our own.

 

You make good points but some facts are just that, facts. 

 

Byron Leftwich, Superbowl Champion.  Truly contributed to the success that year and looked marvellous against Washington in Primetime during Big Ben's absence.

 

Mincey appears to be doing the right things in Dallas and is considered a leader there.  Go figure.  Perhaps just maturity over time, as all of us exhibit?

 

We still don't know the real story behind the scenes for Monroe, do we?  Or was it established that he was making such demands, in-season? He's battled injuries there, and been away briefly but come this weekend, should be the starting LT in the Divisional Round of the Playoffs.  Underplayed, overplayed, he's their fixture.

 

Mike Smith faced his share of criticisms during Jack's era, along with the entire JDR regime.  We seemed to appreciate him more once he left and we realized how much he patched up a unit that wasn't overflowing with talent.

 

Mathis is aged indeed, but he's our own.  Detroit, a presently more successful franchise find him valuable as the vet to calm their youth at DB.  I agree the timing of his depature from Jacksonville was about right, but again, he was vilified often, moreso in the latter stages here. Though outsiders continued to praise his output.

 

Forsett was added to boost the list seeing he looks pretty good in Baltimore, just after leaving da Ville.  He's not our boy anyway, as stated.

 

Look, nitpicking players' games is what we all do as fans.  Part of the game.  My point is that all these currest post-Jag successes show that there are sizeable fundamental flaws within the walls of 1 Alltel Place (they maintained that address?).  It's seen in our game day output, our draft acquisitions, FAs in recent past (not the latest corps), etc.  There's just some sort of dark cloud that's been hanging over the franchise since that fateful 2nd half vs. titans in 2000, in spite of solid efforts to seek improvement (JDR teased with those playoffs appearances later in the decade; we knew we hadn't really arrived).  We are still seeking some semblance of identity, of continuity, of belief.  Time is our ally.

 

At first glance, one would think there is some truth to what you are saying, if you are just talking about the entire history of the Jaguars.  Because the main characteristic of bad personnel management, besides bad drafting and making bad decisions on hiring free agents, is letting go of the wrong guys.   It just stands to reason: it's all part of bad management.   It stands to reason that a team making bad personnel decisions in one area is making bad personnel decisions in another area. 

 

Sounds reasonable.   On the other hand, when you say, "Only, I won't say we are unique - as acknowledged, it happens to every team - but proficient, in getting rid of our own." I think your analysis is incomplete. 

 

To make the point that we are particularly proficient, you would have to gather data from other teams as well.  I would wager that a lot of other teams let a lot of players go elsewhere and become starters or backups on better teams.   That happens all the time.   So we traded Eugene Monroe.   We picked up Sen'Derrick Marks.  Net gain?   How many players did other teams erroneously let go that we picked up?   Do other teams let as many productive players go as we do?   Can you make the same list for Tampa?   New England?   Dallas?  Cleveland? 

 

Besides, I don't think it is fair to smear the current regime with the mistakes of Gene Smith or Shack Harris.   Dave Caldwell has nothing to do with them.   So to say "we" are letting the wrong players go, because we let, say, Byron Leftwich go, is not a fair or useful analysis.  "We" didn't do that.   Someone who is no longer here did that. 

 

Just to make a list of players the Jaguars let go that went on to make the roster of other more successful teams doesn't carry the point that we are particularly bad about doing things like that.   You'd have to prove we are worse than other teams.  Don't do that.  It's way too much work.  

 

In summary, I just don't think you can draw any conclusion from your list.  

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