Quote:Ok but people are still required to pay for those services, and those services are charged based upon consumption right? So they really are still commodities, I understand the big picture your painting and in principle I agree it's something we shouldn't expect even the poorest of American's to go without. But trying to create an exemption to the basic laws of supply and demand disturbs the entire process to the point it becomes compromised.

 

In theory I would like to see a system where children under the age of 18 (I don't even care if there non-citizens) are provided healthcare 100% for anything.(notice the period). A kid gets cancer I'd prefer a system where we say ok, Doctor do what you have to the bill is covered.(notice the period). Now that would require government, it would require a socialized form of distribution, it would require taxes to fund it, and hold onto your hats I'd be ok with it. My problem starts when we expect to build a system where working adults (or not working adults) can require their neighbors to fund their healthcare through government. Or worse when government starts deciding what healthcare or preventive measures private individuals need or qualify for. It just opens the door to all kinds of abuse, but when it comes to children that have no control over their own circumstances, I don't care, treat the kids and we as a society should at least be able to figure out how to make that right.

I do agree with most of this. I am not actually even surprised to hear you say you'd be for that type of healthcare for children and I think you would find many people willing to support similar legislation, at least I would hope so. You are very consistent in that regard. I also agree with the dilemma of abuse. You will find it in private ran healthcare as well as public ran. 

 

I guess one of the main philosophical differences in how people view this issue is in, an I apologize because I cannot think of a better word, selflessness. I do not mean to offend anyone at all I just don't know a better way to express what I mean. When it comes to necessities of life, I have no problem with idea of everyone helping everyone for the sake of society and it's future. Even knowing that abuse of the system will occur I think it's the direction we should move. Even being altruistic aside, it seems to me a healthy and educated population not saddled with crippling debt for the two is to an overall benefit to a society and it's growth. 

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