Quote:You seem to only support government force when you agree with it, for example we can go back to the vaccines where you advocate forced vaccination. So I'm confused who sets the standard for when the force of government is acceptable and when it's not?


To me the only time the force of government is acceptable is to defend the life of an innocent or the private property of a citizen if we agree on that I don't see where you can justify not granting security for minors as they are the definition of innocent.


If we accept a government that forces participation why is it unacceptable to expect government to protect the most innocent when the time is needed. I'm in no way advocating government replace parents, quite contrary I fully support the parents authority which is why we disagree on forced vaccinations, but the reality is not all parents even remotely attempt to provide for their children. These children were discussing have no parental protection or guardian providing for them that's where government can play a role. No child should every be denied healthcare because of their parents or guardians ability to pay. If we're going to have a Darwinist vision of society then go all the way abolish all forms of government and institute a voluntary society.

 

Protecting the public health is not charity. Paying to rear children because their parents choose not too is charity. That's the difference. And you really do go down the rabbit hole with the "health care shouldn't be denied" bit. As I said earlier, there are many things far more important to a child on a daily basis that you could just as easily say government should be paying for, but the truth is that it simply isn't my or the public's responsibility and I resent being made to pay for other people's mistakes or bad behaviors. It merely encourages more of the same. If you want more of something then subsidize it, if you want less then tax it. But we can't make the poor pitiful poor who make these mistakes pay for them, instead we subsidize and get more of it.

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