Quote:I was responding to Oface. He doesn't link to scientific papers or quote any actual scientists, only left-wing press releases. Getting one's way by lawsuit is a typical tactic of the left. It doesn't require actually being right, or even winning a case. Just piling up a lot of court costs can do the trick.

Of course there are scientists. Most of them went into the field in the first place because they believed in man-made <del>Global Warming</del> Climate Change to begin with. Whether it's science, politics, or religion, very few believers change their minds about their beliefs just because the evidence disagrees with the belief, unless the evidence is truly overwhelming.


In a statistical field like climatology there will never be overwhelming evidence one way or the other. As far as temperature measurements are concerned we're talking about fractions of a degree. In the case of temperatures before 1979 (before satellites) the 'global temperature' comes from a bunch of poorly-spaced measurements that were originally read to the nearest degree at best. Even now the believers always refer to the non-satellite measurements while skeptics use the satellite measurements. I think the skeptics have the high ground here, since the satellite results are actually global.

Stop trying to discredit scientists. That's disingenuous and a cop out. You know full well if what you purport about the motives of scientists were true, absolutely no science could ever be done. But there has been plenty of science done. We have the plastics, the computers and, yes, the climate models to prove it. If you need to re-visit the scientific method, I suggest you retake 4th grade.


I'm not going to speak to this point again.

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