Quote:You've just summed up, in a roundabout way, why there is no outrage from some circles, even as others scream bloody murder and start lighting torches for the witch hunt. People have different opinions on what constitutes a "human being". Speaking very generally here and without regard for my own thoughts on abortion, your child is someone else's tumor, and they're just as sure that it's a tumor as you are that it's a child.

 

This is the part i have always hated about this debate, what DEBATE there is no debate.  A human being is a human being regardless of age.  wait wait wait.  Is it SENTIENT?  When you're unconscious on an operating table then you are no longer a sentient being either, but that doesn't give the care provider the right to kill you arbitrarily even if your wife and your life insurance agent think its a good idea. 

 

The entire concept of debating when life begins is based on a 19th century understanding of the concept.  now, as civilized evolved beings we know that the first instance that the genetic blue print for the third organism (or more in the case of twins etc.) is at the moment of conception.  That's not up for debate.  That's not up for romantic interpretation.  It doesn't matter what Richard dawkins or nancy Pelosi says on the matter, its an indisputable scientific FACT.  The idea that we as a society have turned a blind eye to the indiscriminate slaughter of some 70 million unborn children is our societies morbid undercurrent, like slavery to previous generations but we should have darn well known better.  

 

And in the case of planned parenthood, you can't even hide behind the flowery rhetoric of sentience or viability, this group fundamentally espouses abortion up until the day of birth and devotes millions of dollars to politically advance that cause.  

 

As to the general question of the legalities of the actions undertaken by planned parenthood the rationalizations are sobering.  For everyone clinging to the concept that these were simple reimbursements for cost of shipping, it doesn't cost 100 + per specimen to ship things.  you con't haggle over reimbursement you haggle over price for sale for profit.  you don't talk about having a Lamborghini when your just trying to reimburse the cost of forceps.  

 

Also it is illegal to alter the abortion procedure in any way for the extraction of fetal tissue and the staff is not to be made aware that the tissue is to be donated so that they are not tempted to do so.  I don't care how many times its edited, the context, the location, or what barney the dinosaur was doing in the background, when you have an abortion doctor say "I will Talk to Phil about using a less CRUNCHY method to preserve the specimen" then that's proof of a violation of the law.  

 

It doesn't matter if the tape showing you kill your wife in her sleep was edited to take out the recording your daughter did on movie night.  It doesn't change the fact that there is plain evidence that you killed her.  In this case there is plain evidence that these transactions were for financial benefit and that Planned Parenthood altered procedures for the procurement of said specimens.  

 

Even more alarming to those of you who may be pro choice, the videos being suppressed in California have to do with a company purchasing whole specimens from planned parenthood.  That means were no longer talking about in the mothers womb.  In the case of mid to late term abortions you have the potential that because of the preparation required that the mother could deliver early, that means that the child is born and has a fighting chance at life.  These barbarians deny the Child Medical care (Barrack Obama voted to support such practices in the Illinois state legislature) and in the latest tape that was released you have doctors bagging that when this happens they have an IN TACT SPECIMEN!

 

This isn't the debate about the girl in medical school who just found out she's 6 weeks pregnant but wants to be a doctor.  There's no flowery rhetoric to hid behind.  This is eugenic barbarism at its best coming to a low income neighborhood near you straight from the fourth Reich of the enigmatic Margret Sanger.  

 

P.S. you can't invoke Godwins law when talking about a concurrent eugenic cartel perpetrating Mass Slaughter!

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