Quote:What was your honest expectation of this thread?

 

Honestly, I did have the narrow hope that it would be about what was exposed since it appears to be illegal and in my opinion kind of sick.  I predicted in my mind though that it would eventually come down to whether or not abortion is right/wrong.

 

Quote:Of course it was going to degenerate into this. To the pro-birthers, it's mass murder. To the pro-choicers, it's facilitation of important scientific research. What's the difference between the two points of view? Whether a thing growing inside of a woman is a human life or not.


If I wasn't going to say what I'm about to, I guarantee you someone would launch into a tirade over that last sentence. Someone still may despite my essentially calling them on it. The actions of PP doctors are only criminal if the fetus is a living human being. There is no consensus on that, only high emotions and numerous arguments of questionable merit on both sides. Of course this became an abortion debate. What else could it have done?

 

Perhaps the discussion could be about what was revealed in the undercover videos?  It's not about abortion being right or wrong, it's about alleged criminal activity by an organization receiving federal funding.

 

The first "redirection" or deflection was because the videos are edited.  The full length un-edited versions have been linked to.

 

Next it started to turn towards the "merits" of Planned Parenthood and how allegedly "only" 3% of services that they provide are abortions.  There is also the "redirection" of some that claim that if Planned Parenthood loses federal funding, then several women would be without contraceptives, breast exams, etc.

 

It also started to turn towards a racial issue when the founder is brought up.

 

The fact of the matter is, it certainly looks like an organization that receives federal funding and contributes heavily towards democratic candidates is involved in illegal activity.

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