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John Boehner resigning from Congress

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Quote:Government shutdown = President Sanders
 

Not necessarily.  There are a few big reasons why.  

 

1.) THIS

 

Quote:Perspective is everything. If the goal was actually what they have convinced you it is they could gobafyer legislation banning abortions or fetal harvesting but that is not what they are doing. They are trying to shut the whole thing down without a care for the people losing the services that is the vast majority of what the operation does. The GOP created a fresh wedge issue and you guys bought it. It's as simple as that.
 

is patently and verifiably FALSE!  the GOP isn't trying to SHUT DOWN planned parenthood.  Planned parenthood receives grants from executive agencies, but it has many other revenue streams (including the illegal sale of fetal tissue.)  If the left cares so badly about it then let the Clinton foundation, the Steir brothers, George Soros and all the other uber rich lefties pay for it.  

 

2.) Planned Parenthood doesn't appear in a single line item in the budgets approved by congress.  The idea that the group is funded by tax payer dollars is actually an abuse of executive power.  This isn't just allocating money that congress has approved for certain departments.  This is directly contravening the expressed will of the people and their elected representatives because the executive is fully aware that the measure would never have received approval in the first place.  

 

3.) The vast majority of the public has never seen the videos.  In reality, its those in favor of PP that are on the extreme in this one.  a slight majority of people in this country are pro life to start with.  of those who are pro choice a majority would still object to late term abortions that would yield meaningful fetal tissue anyway.  In most other industrialized countries cut offs for abortion are earlier than they are in the US for that very reason.  The mainstream media has gotten away with only referencing HIGHLY EDITED footage in most of their interviews.  If this thing really did go down they wouldn't be able to keep dodging the evidence and in a lot of cases most sensible people who are pro choice would disagree with the way PP has handled this.  

 

4.) Contrary to what the EXTREME left is advocating, this is a compromise position.  The GOP is willing to increase overall funding for womens health and spread it to the other institutions that can provide services to women in need of family planning, cancer screening or contraceptives.  The idea that PP is too big to fail is a myopic view of the uber left and is easily explainable.  

 

5.) You have a top tier of charismatic candidates that are already in the national spotlight that could carry the message.  Carly Fiorina herself could kill the democratic field, but throw in Trump Cruz Rubio and the bunch and we would own the sunday news Shows.  

 

6.) as has been pointed out the government never really shuts down.  

 

7.) That's what they said in 2013...  2014 we won the senate.  IT's not even October the year before the election.  Voters aren't going to be overly concerned with the discretionary 15% of the government going on paid vacation for a couple of weeks for the sake of trying to save a few children from being mindlessly and ruthlessly slaughtered.  

 

Just as an aside, in the senate i believe that they are trying to pass a bill that would protect pain capable children born alive.  I thought that the whole concept of sentience (loosely defined as the ability to perceive pain) not to mention the fact that the children are developed to the point of having organs to begin with would mean that even under the sliding scale of protection offered in the Roe v. Wade decision would mean that we would be protecting the unborn at this stage of development in the first place.  

 

Bottom line, the concept of pro-choice was derived on the idea that we were talking about a glob of cells that didn't really resemble a human being.  Babies heads being cut off and put into boxes is going to turn off a significant portion of the electorate. 

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Messages In This Thread
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by Guest - 09-25-2015, 12:48 PM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by EricC85 - 09-26-2015, 06:18 AM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by jj82284 - 09-27-2015, 11:02 AM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by jj82284 - 09-27-2015, 11:07 AM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by Ringo - 10-09-2015, 09:53 AM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by rocdee - 10-09-2015, 01:09 PM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by Kotite - 10-16-2015, 06:11 AM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by jj82284 - 10-16-2015, 06:43 PM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by Kotite - 10-16-2015, 07:56 PM
John Boehner resigning from Congress - by EricC85 - 10-17-2015, 02:30 PM



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