Quote:Hogwash. You are stringing a bunch of silly questions together to avoid directly confronting any of the statements I made about a real situation. You are so afraid to directly challenge ANY of the statements I have made about a very real situation that you continually call them "anecdotal" implying they are not reliable because they are from personal accounts. I would provide a monsoon of scientific evidence to support my viewpoint, but you would only attempt to discredit any link I posted whether it be from Scientific American or the Christian Science Monitor as being skewed, slanted or sympathetic. So instead I stand by a very real account, while you provide no evidence whatsoever that you can even define what transgender is or why it happens.


 

My gosh this is sad...  I don't have to define transgenderism.  I don't have to come up with some sing song kumbayah explanation for every psychological malady that exists.  I do know that it has nothing to do with biological order.  If you're talking about someone with ambiguous chromosomes or born with hermaphroditic genitalia and the parents chose wrong that's a different  conversation.  But if you're talking about someone who is born with a defined set of chromosomes and unambiguous lady or boy parts who just thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the gender fence then i'm sorry you can't make a credible difference between that particular mental illness and someone having a paranoid delusion that aliens from mars implanted something in them or thinking they are a bird.  The idea that we should find meaning and subsidize the absurd is the foundation for our societies collapse.  


Instead you, and others, jump to some other extreme which has no line of logic to it whatsoever.. "If I try to understand why someone is transgender and heaven forbid, I actually get to a point where I don't think it's as disgusting as I currently do, then next people are gonna try to get me to think necrophilia or pedophilia are okay." This is ridiculous.


 

you said it not me.



You say sexual arousal is incidental, but I just used your own words. I will repeat what I stated earlier and try to use smaller words so you can digest it.

Someone who is transgender self identifies as the opposite sex. They are literally a girl trapped in a boy's body or vice versa. This has nothing to do with sexual attraction, arousal or what is commonly referred to as orientation. Let me blow your mind and let you know that it is possible for a boy to be born and self identify as a girl and have the sexual orientation which makes them naturally attracted to girls.


 

More childishness.  Just because you have been seduced by the flavor of the month romanticism doesn't make it anymore correct. As i said in my previous post, which you willfully ignore, if a child self identifies as a toaster should we then let them plug themselves into an outlet?  Jump off the roof because they feel like they are a super hero trapped in a mortals body?  



 

And i'm fully aware that a transgirl can still be attracted to straight or bio girls which further reinforces that this is a psychological malady that doesn't deserve emotional subsidy from society.  



To play your little game.. if a child identifies as a bird and jumps off a building without a parachute, they will die. I don't know what allowances you would need to make for them. They are questions that bear no relevance to the discussion and enforce your feelings of mental stress when confronted with an idea you don't understand. You can't face something directly so you make up dumb [BAD WORD REMOVED].


 

Lol...  I'm sensing a little bit of hostility at the end of the 45 seconds.  I'm not stressed and it is something that i understand.  Incidentally its usually the one who starts cursing who is stressed, just to let you know.  As a society we have a responsibility to protect the mentally ill from harming THEMSELVES and others.  The idea that you would callously allow the trans genome child to leap to their death is startling.  



You dig a deeper hole by throwing hypotheticals where a granny identifies as a football player or some random joe identifies as a surgeon. "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Nobody can identify as those things. Or a bird.. or a deity.. Those are called delusions
. But a person can feel like they were born with the wrong body parts based on how they think and feel about themselves. I know this is a rare occurrence, but there are enough documented cases in history which have consistent themes for there to be any number of educational studies, websites, etc. for you to never look up and ignore.

 

oh wait, you do know what the word means.  Unfortunately you have offered no real basis for distinguishing between those DELUSIONS and the pseudo romantic fascination that society has lifting up those who are TRANSGENDER.  


You say I don't understand the position I myself hold.. ?? .. I think I have a better understanding of this than you. I actually have had conversations with transgender people and know someone who is transitioning from a woman to a man. You spin boogeyman stories.


 

"I talked to people, i know i care,"  lol.  


You say that "
in essence what you are saying is that no matter how silly or biologically incorrect someone's base desires are we as a society should bend over backwards to indulge them."


I never said that. And I don't care whether people like or agree with people who are gay or transgender. But I do feel they should have equal protection to earn a living and to public accommodation. Is adding LGBT to the list of protected people (race, religion, age, etc.) bending over backwards for them? Allowing them to have the same rights I as a straight man have today?


 

even more leftist jargon.  It's too early in the morning for this.  The constitution doesn't require making these redundant subclasses because we as a society recognize everyone's God given right to be as delusional and biologically incorrect as they choose to be. 


You wrap up by saying discrimination is bad then basically backtrack on that statement by further exposing your ignorance on this subject. At the end of the day, there are two types of people. People who try to figure out things they don't fully understand and people who try to tear down, destroy or belittle things they don't fully understand. You refuse to directly challenge a single thing I have typed about a real account I shared in detail and you are throwing feces against the wall hoping any of it will stick with the last three posts. It doesn't. You are all over the place. You're throwing any wild scenario out there you can conceive instead of accepting that ANY of what I have shared could be true. That is cognitive dissonance.

 

lol...  I'm not experiencing any stress because i have a clearly defined belief system and as much as you would like to think so nothing that you are saying is new.  It's the same recycled "I talked to the people, you don't understand, they're trapped freedom of expression" line that we have all been force-fed by our current society.  

 

The truth is that there are behaviors and desires that lead to the health of a person and overall society.  

 

ALL people have desires and urges that detract from their health as individuals and that of society as a whole.  

 

To promote the former is societal evolution, to promote the latter is societal suicide no matter how many people have cried on your shoulder.

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