Quote:Peyton and Eli are pretty darn good too...as was Kellen Winslow Jr. before the motorcycle accident.  

 

At least through his first 5 1/2 seasons of his NFL Career,   Chris Long has followed the path of Archie Manning in that he's a very good player on teams that have never had winning seasons.

 

On the other hand,  Peyton and Eli Manning have had team success much like Howie Long.

 

Even though KWII isn't the player he was earlier in his career,   to his credit he was still producing earlier this season for the Jets in what is his 10th NFL season.    While Kellen Winslow Sr. was the more accomplished of the two,   unfortunately his career was cut short because of a severe knee injury.   Before the injury,  Winslow Sr.  was playing at a level that very few,  if any,  ever played the TE position.

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