First Democrat Debate on CNN

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First Democrat Debate on CNN

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10-14-2015, 06:29 PM

Quote:In my defense, I was drunk at the time, but it held up. I consider same-sex marriage, gender equality, rich men not being allowed to tell poor women what they do to their bodies and separation of church and state to be very important issues, and I always liked Sanders' stance on those. What I didn't like (and still don't) is his tax plan, but let's be honest with ourselves for a second here: that's not going to affect me anytime soon. I'm still early in my career, and though I am pretty well compensated for the work I do (the pros of being an outside consultant), I'm not going to be in a tax bracket that takes a hit, so just this once I'm going to look out for number one. I also think the notion of climate change being this nation's number one defense issue is laughable, but that's a minor thing for me.

Sanders and Paul share their views on foreign policy. Most importantly to me, Sanders shares Paul's view on the NSA, the DHS and the gradual stripping of American civil liberties in the name of "national (in)security". That, to me, is the single most important issue in this election, and since I agree with Sanders on enough other things that I can overlook a tax plan that doesn't screw me, I'll shed my desire for a centrist candidate and, just this once, gleefully embrace a socialist who, unlike many other candidates, has aggressive plans to actually change the way business is done in this country. That earns my respect, and his rant against the NSA last night earned my vote.

Doesn't mean I won't vote for Republicans, third parties or independents in November. I certainly will, but like I've always said here (and elsewhere), I vote based upon the person, not the party, and if I feel like Bernie Sanders is the best option in this election, then that's who I'm voting for regardless of party label.

*Edit: JIB, whatever you do, make sure you watch the last ten minutes or so of the debate, where the candidates were asked how they would differ from a third Obama term. Hillary's answer is comedy gold.

Here is where you and I differ. The social issues mean very little to me. I wish the Republican party would stop talking so much about Planned Parenthood because even though the issue is important, it's NOT the THE issue that most (sane) people are worried about.

I didn't hear anything about DHS or NSA stuff during the debate.

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.

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First Democrat Debate on CNN - by jagibelieve - 10-12-2015, 05:21 PM

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First Democrat Debate on CNN - by enigma - 10-12-2015, 10:16 PM

First Democrat Debate on CNN - by DewtheMathis - 10-13-2015, 02:30 AM

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First Democrat Debate on CNN - by EricC85 - 10-13-2015, 07:46 AM

First Democrat Debate on CNN - by The Real Marty - 10-13-2015, 07:49 AM

First Democrat Debate on CNN - by The Real Marty - 10-13-2015, 07:55 AM

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