Quote:Then why specifically mention Bridgewater and your laughter if he busts?  THAT certainly doesn't help the Jaguars. Why would you take joy in the team continuing to fail? Not objecting to team losing in an already hopelessly lost season isn't out of antipathy to the team or  desire to score mythical points on a message board. It's the desire to improve the team to see it win lots of those shiny trophies and big gaudy rings they give to the Super Bowl Champions. Saying Nyaaahhh nyaahh to those on the other end of this debate doesn't further the aim of longer term success for the team at all.   If your fear that one team is perceived to tank will be the catalyst to widespread dishonesty, then you can argue the Colts already started that ball rolling when they wound up with Luck.  What about faking injury to slow down an opponent's hurry up offense?  That's happened too.  Somehow, the league has survived those acts of dishonesty.  What about punters taking a dive after minimal contact to draw a penalty for running into the kicker or roughing the kicker?  Does the league's integrity suffer for that?  Did you stop watching football because the Patriots were caught in Spygate?  Should offensive linemen who hold on a play and don't get called for it self report their infraction of the rules and demand the team be penalize?.  I've yet to see that in a game.  What about the team that benefits from an obviously blown call?  Should honor preclude them from accepting the benefit of those blown calls?

 

Where is your moral outrage after all of these things?  How did the league survive all of these affronts to its integrity?

 

Unfortunately, I think the team is too inept from a talent perspective to win many games this year, whether tanking or not.

 

But please don't argue honor and integrity.  That toothpaste was out of the tube long ago.

 

I said previously the pick was irrelevant.  I only mention Bridgewater because that is who most of the tankers are high on.

 

"If your fear that one team is perceived to tank will be the catalyst to widespread dishonesty, then you can argue the Colts already started that ball rolling when they wound up with Luck."

 

Yep, they sure did, and you're perpetuating that notion that our win-loss record is contrived by drawing senseless parallels between fudging rules on the field of play with the protracted efforts of an organization to upset a league process.  That, IMO, is a completely skewed sense of proportion and sportsmanship.  Players will always look for the immediate advantage, that's why those guys with the striped shirts run around on the field.  But if we take your comparison at face value, the glaring difference is the players who break the rules are looking to win.  You wish to lose.  If that's the image you want projected onto our team and this fan base, then I want no association with it. 

 

I agree that the talent level on this team is poor enough to warrant a high draft pick.  Why exacerbate the situation by proclaiming to the world that we're intentionally throwing the season?   Tanking is only a short term solution that undermines credibility and respect.  Did the Patriots, or the Chiefs, or the Saints tank to get to where they are now?  They did it through careful selection in FA and the draft.  And while those teams had their lean years, I heard no credible accusations they were intentionally losing to gain advantage.  I will always choose a culture of 100% effort and winning over one of duplicity.

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