Quote:I don't consider Beckham a great college talent so I'll throw him out up front. He played in 40 games but only scored in 8. Great NFL rookie season, but was never a top 20 WR by any measure in college. When Landry last played in college and faced UF Hargreaves was a backup to Purifoy and Roberson and didn't see much playing time (he did nothing of notice either way). So I will throw him out. Last time I looked, Mike Evans never played the Gators with Hargreaves. When Evans faced Florida, Hargreaves was still in high school. I will throw him out. Green-Beckham also played the Gators while Hargreaves was a backup and didn't see much playing time. I'll throw him out


We see a trend? He actually never matched up with these guys.


Cooper did play a Gators team with Hargreaves starting and put up 10 receptions for 200+ yards and 3tds. Yes, yes, I know Hargreaves plays one side of the field and doesn't always play the #1 wideout. However, a chunk of those yards were against him. He DID however hold Treadwell In check quite well.


One thing is consistent though: terrible QB play. Plus, none are really great passing teams. LSU 121st out of 128 in passing. SC 103, Missouri 101, vandy 93, ga 92, Tennessee 87, and so on and so on. Probably the best passing team UF has played was East Carolina. Their QB put up 333 yards, 3 TD's, and their top WR put up 135 yards and a td.

 

I didn't say that VH3 has played all of those receivers.  Those are good receivers that have played in the SEC for the last 3 years.

 

That you would say ODB doesn't count is absurd and shows how slanted your argument really is.  He put up 1200 yards and 8 touchdowns his last season there.  He didn't somehow just get good in the NFL his rookie season.

 

VH3 wasn't a backup against LSU or Missouri his freshman year.  He was a backup for the first 2 games of the season (he was the nickel, not even really a backup) and he had a pick in each of those games and 3 out of his first 4 games.  He was the starter for LSU and Missouri.

 

And the Amari Cooper thing has been discussed ad naseum already on this board - you should look it up.  Cooper's production came away from Hargreaves that game.  Cooper had like 5 catches for 60 yards against VH3 and even those were crossing routes in between zones.  He did catch one red zone touchdown over Hargreaves.

 

The reason the SEC offenses don't put up huge numbers in general is because teams play defense with NFL starters on their teams, like Hargreaves.  Average offenses look terrible and good offenses look just ok.  There is a reason why a team like Ole Miss who is the #9 offense in the country puts up 30 against the SEC and 56 against the rest of the country... And that's taking into account the 53 point debacle they had last night against Arkansas...  That is unless you want to make the argument that SEC defenses aren't any good either.

 

Basically, you and a few others are just looking for a reason not to like the guy and nit pick him.  You are making an argument about VH3 not playing good competition, when the competition he has faced has been better or at worst equal to any other corner in the country.  Name another elite corner who has played better competition.

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