Quote:I didn't say that VH3 has played all of those receivers. Those are good receivers that have played in the SEC for the last 3 years.


That you would say ODB doesn't count is absurd and shows how slanted your argument really is. He put up 1200 yards and 8 touchdowns his last season there. He didn't somehow just get good in the NFL his rookie season.


VH3 wasn't a backup against LSU or Missouri his freshman year. He was a backup for the first 2 games of the season (he was the nickel, not even really a backup) and he had a pick in each of those games and 3 out of his first 4 games. He was the starter for LSU and Missouri.


And the Amari Cooper thing has been discussed ad naseum already on this board - you should look it up. Cooper's production came away from Hargreaves that game. Cooper had like 5 catches for 60 yards against VH3 and even those were crossing routes in between zones. He did catch one red zone touchdown over Hargreaves.


The reason the SEC offenses don't put up huge numbers in general is because teams play defense with NFL starters on their teams, like Hargreaves. Average offenses look terrible and good offenses look just ok. There is a reason why a team like Ole Miss who is the #9 offense in the country puts up 30 against the SEC and 56 against the rest of the country... And that's taking into account the 53 point debacle they had last night against Arkansas... That is unless you want to make the argument that SEC defenses aren't any good either.


Basically, you and a few others are just looking for a reason not to like the guy and nit pick him. You are making an argument about VH3 not playing good competition, when the competition he has faced has been better or at worst equal to any other corner in the country. Name another elite corner who has played better competition.

To me, vh3 and Ramsey are the top two defensive talents in the draft, ahead of bosa and nkemdiche.


People nitpick everyone. They are 1a and 1b for me.


Ramsey seems like he would make the bigger impact for the jaguars specifically.


If the jaguars wind up with either guy I'll be really happy, but the pass rush will still need some additions in free agency or rds 2&3.

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