Quote:Thanks for the insight.

 

How do you think he became a more complete player?

 

What were his deficiencies as a rookie, and how did he correct them?

 

He improved most against the run and later also in coverage. I think part of this is just a natural improvement. Most of the players improve during their careers with experience and when the game slow down for them. But I also think moving him to LB in 2013 after we signed Michael Bennett and Cliff Avrill made him overall a better player.

 

Here is is an article from last year about Irvin: http://www.heraldnet.com/article/2015010.../150109510

 

 

Quote:Yeah almost seems like a "virtual certainty" if you know what I mean lol.


Now Seahawks fans are bitter saying "have fun over paying him" blah blah blah. He's pretty much exactly what our defense needs.

 

I don't think we are bitter about losing Irvin. Sure we'd like to have him back but most of us knew he won't stay in Seattle after his 5th year option wasn't picked up last year. Or even before that when we signed K.J. Wright and Bobby Wagner (especially Wright's contract was a bit of surprise to all of us at that time, keeping Wagner was a no brainer) to new contracts. We already have too much money tied up to LB core and defense overall.

 

Do I think he's worth reported 9-10M/year? No, I'd give him around 7-8 at most but the Jags have a lot of money and most of the players that sign on first day of free agency all over the league are overpaid. Still, if you sign Irvin you'll get a great player that fit your system. And we'll get a nice compensation pick (probably a 3rd rounder like we did for Maxwell) so at the end of the day I think we'll all be happy.

 

 

Quote:I would love to see Bruce Irvin and OT Russell Okung signed from Seattle wouldn't hurt the team only make it better but I don't think either will be signed.

If you sign Okung it really allows you to either trade LT Luke Joeckel or have him in a prove it year and leave him for depth this season.

I really think that they will go after Eric Weddle, Chargers FS in Free Agency since Sergio Brown has been a disappointment, but maybe I am wrong?

 

I think even if you sign Okung it would be smart to keep Joeckel. Okung is injury prone and you can count on him to miss some games every season. He's currently also recovering after shoulder surgery and will represent himself in free agency. I'm really interested to see what he'll get. Maybe he'll prove me wrong but I think he won't be signed to big longterm contract in first days of FA and at the end probably have to settle for a 1-year prove it deal. 

 

 

Quote:I dunno guy.

 

There is a lot of chatter about this.  I've even seen a "report" on facebook that discussed specific contract terms, which included $20 million guaranteed.  If he signs here, and any of that turns out to be accurate, there is a lot that might suggest tampering.

 

We may or may not be excited about a Irvin signing here.

 

Would we be as excited if we had to surrender a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him?

 

I think for that to happen it would have to be reported from the Seahawks and I doubt that Carroll would do that to Bradley. We all know that tampering is happening all over the league at this time though.

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