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Quote:The problem is that your accusations are full of holes. You posted that Nelson Mandela plead guilty to 156 acts of terrorism against civilians, when in fact he plead not guilty to the only four charges brought against him in the trial that eventually sent him to prison. None of the four charges included any accusations that he targeted civilians. Mandela later acknowledged that he was involved in acts of sabotage against military and logistical targets, specifically to minimize the chances of collateral civilian casualties.

 

Every one of the ANC attacks you cited earlier, in which civilians were clearly targeted, occurred well after Mandela had been imprisoned. I can find no evidence outside of conspiracy sites (and most of those make circumstantial cases) that he was directing events from prison, especially given the difference in those attacks from the ones for which Mandela was convicted.

 

As for the video of him singing "kill the whites", well I'm skeptical. First of all, there were a few whites allegedly singing about killing themselves, and I found some alternate translations that made the song more figurative and political. Anyway, from what I could see, Mandela wasn't singing, for what that's worth.

 

Finally, put yourself in the place of a black man in South Africa during the 50s - 80s. The oppression was so systemic, so stacked against non-whites. Much more so than the Jim Crow era of our history. At least Dr. King, Thurgood Marshall and the rest of the heroic civil rights fighters had a federal court system to use in their peaceful fight against oppression. That wasn't available in the apartheid system of South Africa. The white minority had a stranglehold on the country. There came a point where violence was the only method that would work.

 

You seem to be a freedom loving individual. Where would you draw the line?

 

+1 on this good post.

 

As for the underlined bolded part, Mandela's legacy was exploited. There were organizations who carried out the attacks on innocent civilians(While Mandela was in prison) who hid behind Mandela as a reasoning for the attacks which was propaganda laced.  

 

Mandela himself was not a perfect person when it came do denouncing crime against humanity. But he turned South Africa around economically (to a degree) to where different cultures could thrive financially, socially, etc. The thing im disappointed about is the SA Government couldn't sustain what Mandela started in terms of growing the economy and reducing poverty.

 

I cant agree more with your last point. 

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