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RIP NELSON MANDELA

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Quote:You know you've lost the debate when you make this about Me and not Mendela. We simply disagree I never see acts of terror as acceptable nor do I see them as necessary. You're one of the ends justify the means guys fine, I'm one of those the means defines the end guys. The Nobility of a cause does not excuse any actions used to achieve that cause.

 

 

I'm not comparing Mendela to Hitler at all, I'm pointing out the flaw in your argument that whatever Mendela did can be overlooked because he had the "good of his poeple" in mind. You can say almost ANY dictator, liberator, terrorist, tyrant and so on had the good of their people in mind, that NEVER excuses acts of an individual or organization.

 

 

The video is a documentary from the BBC I believe, I've seen it on numerous sites from numerous accounts, never once seen anyone deny it's authenticity, if you have another version I'd be curious to see it.

 

As for Mendela being in prison while these "acts of terror" where committed you have to at the very least admit he set the stage with the founding of the ANC. While in prison his wife led the charge of most Necklacing that took place during this period. the Military arm of the ANC that HE co-founded carried out the bombings on CIVILIAN targets, and year after year he was offered release if he would simply denounce the acts of HIS wife and HIS organization, he refused every year. If I load my firearm, pull the charging handle, take off the safety, give it to an unstable, violent and angry mob do I hold no responsibility in their actions? You can argue he was in prison peacefully awaiting his day, you can argue he was pulling strings from inside the prison but you can't argue that he at the very least loaded the charge and placed the powder keg stepped away and watched his organization light the fuse.
 

I think it's clear that for you, this is all about you.

 

I suspect you would have been a Tory during the American Revolution.

 

Don't want to get your hands dirty.

The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.
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RIP NELSON MANDELA - by ibjagged - 12-05-2013, 06:33 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-05-2013, 06:33 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by NYC4jags - 12-05-2013, 06:38 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by foo895 - 12-05-2013, 06:38 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by WingerDinger - 12-05-2013, 07:14 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by The Drifter - 12-05-2013, 07:34 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by foo895 - 12-05-2013, 07:50 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-05-2013, 08:15 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-05-2013, 08:17 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by The Real Marty - 12-06-2013, 08:53 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by The Drifter - 12-06-2013, 09:14 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-06-2013, 03:24 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by CommanderShiro - 12-06-2013, 03:38 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-06-2013, 04:17 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by The Real Marty - 12-06-2013, 04:35 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by thunderbuns - 12-06-2013, 04:45 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Guest - 12-06-2013, 09:54 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Adam2012 - 12-07-2013, 12:45 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-07-2013, 10:14 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Bon Jagley - 12-07-2013, 10:39 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Guest - 12-07-2013, 11:42 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-07-2013, 12:15 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-07-2013, 12:18 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Tommy - 12-08-2013, 02:17 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-08-2013, 09:25 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by The Real Marty - 12-08-2013, 07:42 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-08-2013, 09:13 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by The Real Marty - 12-08-2013, 09:55 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-08-2013, 10:04 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-08-2013, 10:05 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-08-2013, 10:07 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-08-2013, 10:13 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-08-2013, 10:15 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-08-2013, 10:35 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-08-2013, 10:35 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by WingerDinger - 12-08-2013, 10:55 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-08-2013, 11:02 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-08-2013, 11:39 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-08-2013, 11:42 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by WingerDinger - 12-08-2013, 11:45 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by JagsFan1 - 12-09-2013, 01:24 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Jagwired'd - 12-09-2013, 03:40 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Jagwired'd - 12-09-2013, 03:46 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by JagsFan1 - 12-09-2013, 04:25 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by anonymous2112 - 12-09-2013, 04:28 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Jagwired'd - 12-10-2013, 01:44 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by JagsFan1 - 12-10-2013, 12:17 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Adam2012 - 12-10-2013, 02:23 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-10-2013, 02:30 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-10-2013, 02:31 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-10-2013, 02:33 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-10-2013, 03:12 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by JaguarKick - 12-10-2013, 10:21 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Adam2012 - 12-10-2013, 11:58 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Jagwired'd - 12-11-2013, 12:53 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 12-11-2013, 12:04 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-11-2013, 02:07 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Adam2012 - 12-11-2013, 02:33 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-11-2013, 03:31 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by anonymous2112 - 12-11-2013, 05:32 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Jagwired'd - 12-11-2013, 08:35 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Adam2012 - 12-11-2013, 10:37 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by D6 - 12-12-2013, 12:24 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-12-2013, 02:33 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Adam2012 - 12-12-2013, 02:39 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Sammy - 12-12-2013, 09:38 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by D6 - 12-15-2013, 01:01 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by D6 - 12-15-2013, 01:11 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by WingerDinger - 12-15-2013, 01:29 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by D6 - 12-15-2013, 01:40 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by WingerDinger - 12-15-2013, 01:49 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by WingerDinger - 12-15-2013, 01:51 AM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-15-2013, 12:38 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by EricC85 - 12-15-2013, 12:51 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by rollerjag - 12-15-2013, 01:49 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Sammy - 12-15-2013, 07:51 PM
RIP NELSON MANDELA - by Unravel - 12-15-2013, 08:00 PM



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