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Tom Brady's Legacy

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(This post was last modified: 09-24-2016, 12:13 PM by realtorpat.)

Quote:Is it time to question how "great" Brady really is? He's good no question, but now we've seen Mallet, Cassel, Garappolo, Brisset look great in Belichick's system and suck everywhere else (when applicable). Even Garappolo and Brisset are without Gronk.


I'm not questioning he's the best of their qbs, but I do wonder if he could take another team to the SB like Peyton did. I've always thought he was a beneficiary of a good system, there's a LOT of evidence to support that now.
I'm going to break this down one sentence at a time.

is it time to question how "great" Brady really is?  No now is not the time, 2 superbowl wins ago was the time.  at 39 years old and still dominate there is absolutely no question how great Brady is.

now we've seen Mallet, Cassel, Garappolo, Brisset look great in Belichick's system and suck everywhere else (when applicable) 

I don't think we have seen any of those players look great.  They have all looked serviceable.  Brisset played the other night and threw for a total of 103 yards.  Garrappolo has been in the same system for 2 years and was a reasonably high draft pick.  He looked pretty good in the two weeks he played.  Mallet never showed anything IMO.  Last but not least Cassel.  Cassel spent 4 years on the team in the same offense before he had to come in when Brady tore his ACL.  He then proceeded to take an undefeated team and lose 5 games the following year with basically the same roster.  The guy was at his best an average NFL QB and any average NFL QB can take an all time great roster and win 11 games with it.

Even Garappolo and Brisset are without Gronk


Couple things here,  they may not have Gronk but the Pats did sign Martellus Bennett in the offseason who is no slouch at TE.  Add that to Belicheck's ability to scheme matchups and game plan you can get by a couple weeks without your top threat.  Especially early in the season when defenses haven't gelled yet.

I'm not questioning he's the best of their qbs


Obviously he is the best of their qbs.


I like to change the argument to is he the best of all the qbs in the league?  At the moment I do question this.  It appears to me we are at a changing of the guards point, we have a lot of veteran qbs in the final years of their prime approaching retirement and some young guns solidifying the ranks.  Then you have a guy like Aaron Rodgers who looks like a shell of what he was 2 years ago.  Brady cannot do certain things at this point, his deep ball is getting worse and he is forced to live in the intermediate and underneath.  Resume wise he is by far the best.


 I do wonder if he could take another team to the SB like Peyton did


I think it is more accurate to say Peyton was brought to the Superbowl and won the Superbowl despite anything Peyton did.  The two Superbowls Peyton did take his team to he lost.  The other two were won by a strong defense and running game.  You also realize Brady is only 1 year removed from winning a superbowl right?

 I've always thought he was a beneficiary of a good system, there's a LOT of evidence to support that now.


1 Matt Cassel season (with an all time great roster) and 3 games by Patriots backups is not a lot of evidence.  Brady is what makes that system work and those backups all do what Brady has shown is possible in that system.  He made the system the system did not make him.

 


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