Quote:Ok, so all of these people you admire because they speak the truth are suddenly not being honest in their praise of Mandela? Well, if it supports your argument, I guess anything is possible.

 

You are buying into the propaganda you read. If you research Mandela's ties to these supposed despots a little closer, both before and after apartheid, it is not exactly as black and white as you propose.

 

Regarding your last paragraph, that is a deflection. We are not talking about the difference between living in Cuba or the U.S., we are discussing actions taken by a man fighting against one of the most evil modern social systems of our lifetimes. We are talking about life in South Africa before and after apartheid.

 

Our great, freedom loving country as well as other democracies turned our back on those suffering under apartheid for decades. To whom was Mandela to turn to for help? Churchill and FDR turned to Stalin. Need I say more?

 

I know you won't respond because you're hiding behind the CoC. We aren't discussing politics, we're discussing history.

 

The issue isn't him fighting, it's the ACTIONS they took. No one is supporting or suggesting the system of apartheid was acceptable. Of course it was evil and needed to be fought against. I have an issue with Mendela's communist ties, I have an issue with the acts his organization that he founded took, I have an issue with targeting civilians, I have an issue with his refusal to denounce the acts of the ANC while he was in prison.

 

As for your Churchill and FDR point what If I Told I'm not a fan of what they did either. that's a deflection on your part, people keep justifying Mendela's actions by point the actions of others. Evil is evil I don't care who did it for what reason.

 

D6 is pointing out that SOME people are taking the path of least resistance, doing the easy thing and just commenting on the good Mendela did, and he did do some good. Others are standing there ground, heck just look at the blow back me and D6 have gotten from you guys on this board, Imagine the blow back a politician would get.

 

I stand by my thoughts, Mendela isn't someone I would praise, not someone I will mourn and frankly I'm glad the worlds with out one less communist. I've said my peace don't think I'll bother to respond again.

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