Quote:"Hitting him in the hands" isn't the definition for a drop. Neither of the two plays you are talking about were classified as drops. One he was having to make a sideline dive and the other he was fighting through an elite CB to try to catch the pass on the other side of the CBs body. Yes they both hit his hands and he has the capability of making great catches on both, but they aren't drops.


It's like the distinction between a passed ball and a wild pitch. Plenty of wild pitches are avoided because catchers make great digs out of the dirt, but if they don't make that dig it's a wild pitch credited to the pitcher not the catcher. A passed ball is when it is a routine throw that the catcher misses.


Hurns is the one that is making the routine attempt drops (credited with 6 drops, 2nd worst in the league), Arob is the one on the receiving end of the wild pitches (2 drops, 113th worst). You're trying to say yeah well that pitch was two feet short and three feet wide, but the catcher got a piece of glove on it as he was diving across the zone so it should have been caught.

Look man, I appreciate your post, and it's a good argument. I tend to look at football in a much simpler light, and I hate to be cliché but I really believe in the "if it hits your hands you should catch it" mantra.


I think he's still a great player, but he's very clearly in a slump because of the team's current situation, and it's plain obvious how much the dude cares.


I wholeheartedly believe he should've caught both those passes, and 2015 AR probably does catch both.

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