is this really a debate.  Thats like having Mariano Rivera teaching you how to close out games and you become one of the best rookie closers in the league that year; only to come out and say, nah it was all me.  I didn't need anything but God, good food, workouts, and rest to become who i am today.  Must be nice to be great like that.

 

EDIT:  I see it KY.  You feel that because leadership and mentoring can't be measured in a stat line, players who are great are more than likely on a path to success whether they had help or not just cause.  I understand that but without actually knowing the players to see whether thats truly real or not, is just spitting out an opinion and using it as fact.  WHY again is this an issue when he admitted he benefited from the help.  Did he already tell you he did it himself so he's just saying that to the media but you have the inside scoop.  I just wanna know so i can understand the point.

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