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Why retain Dave Caldwell?


Quote:All of these guys came out of the 2013 draft, but dave was only able to draft a mediocre safety. How is that not Daves fault?
 

 

Quote:There's a difference between a bust and a miss. I haven't called any of them a bust, even though Joeckel could fairly be called one and Bortles/Fowler have work to do to avoid it.

 

Regardless, he took Joeckel and Lane Johnson has become one of the best tackles in the league, He took Bortles and Carr has become one of the best young QBs in the league. He took Fowler and Beasley has become one of the best pass rushers in the league. He missed on all 3, badly. 
 

You are both assuming that the players who turned out better would have turned out better had Dave drafted them. Gus Bradley and his cushy "don't worry about wins, just get better" environment would have ruined Johnson, Carr, and Beasley too. As evidence, I offer up the fact that none of the Jags defensive draft picks showed improvement in their second year over their level of play as rookies. Telvin is the only one I can think of who didn't get worse, but his 2015 play was no better than his 2014 play. The only draft picks who improved in their second year were Bortles and Robinson, and that probably had mostly to do with Bortles spending time in a QB camp instead of with the coaches, and Jerry Sullivan.





                                                                          

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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaguarmvp - 02-24-2017, 07:58 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 02-24-2017, 08:33 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaguarmvp - 02-24-2017, 09:50 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by RicoTx - 02-24-2017, 09:52 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by CAPTAIN - 02-24-2017, 09:56 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaguarmvp - 02-24-2017, 09:56 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaguarmvp - 02-24-2017, 09:58 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Pwmccorm1216 - 02-24-2017, 09:59 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by RicoTx - 02-24-2017, 10:07 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by JagsorDie - 02-24-2017, 10:35 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaglyn - 02-24-2017, 10:46 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by MalabarJag - 02-24-2017, 11:18 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 02-24-2017, 11:20 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by DragonFury - 02-25-2017, 02:24 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Pwmccorm1216 - 02-25-2017, 02:40 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Pwmccorm1216 - 02-25-2017, 02:43 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Jerrad - 02-25-2017, 02:46 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by JagFanatic24 - 02-25-2017, 02:48 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Pwmccorm1216 - 02-25-2017, 02:50 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by wrong_box - 02-25-2017, 03:40 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 02-25-2017, 07:28 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaguarmvp - 02-25-2017, 07:31 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Kcirred - 02-25-2017, 08:22 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Yo Boy - 02-25-2017, 08:45 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by wrong_box - 02-26-2017, 10:07 AM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by DragonFury - 02-26-2017, 02:48 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by leopold332002 - 02-26-2017, 05:15 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by DragonFury - 02-26-2017, 05:37 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 02-26-2017, 06:37 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 02-26-2017, 06:43 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by wrong_box - 02-26-2017, 07:17 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 02-26-2017, 07:21 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by wrong_box - 02-26-2017, 07:49 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaguarmvp - 02-26-2017, 07:55 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by wrong_box - 02-26-2017, 08:05 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Yo Boy - 02-26-2017, 08:07 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by JackCity - 02-26-2017, 08:10 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 02-26-2017, 08:14 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by JackCity - 02-26-2017, 08:17 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 02-26-2017, 08:17 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 02-26-2017, 08:20 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 02-26-2017, 08:46 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by MalabarJag - 02-26-2017, 09:13 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Teal Time Radio - 02-26-2017, 09:25 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by MalabarJag - 02-26-2017, 09:31 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by flsprtsgod - 02-26-2017, 09:34 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by leopold332002 - 02-26-2017, 09:37 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 02-26-2017, 10:13 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 02-26-2017, 10:32 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by leopold332002 - 02-27-2017, 07:36 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Caldrac - 02-27-2017, 08:47 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Jagwired - 02-27-2017, 09:41 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by MalabarJag - 02-27-2017, 10:16 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by MalabarJag - 02-27-2017, 10:31 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by NYC4jags - 02-27-2017, 10:55 AM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by MoJagFan - 02-27-2017, 05:30 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Teal Time Radio - 02-27-2017, 11:11 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by MoJagFan - 02-28-2017, 02:41 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaguarmvp - 02-28-2017, 06:49 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Teal Time Radio - 02-28-2017, 07:48 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by BritJag - 02-28-2017, 07:52 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by JackCity - 02-28-2017, 08:50 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by JagFanatic24 - 02-28-2017, 08:53 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Samjag904 - 02-28-2017, 08:59 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by diamondjag28 - 02-28-2017, 10:40 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by diamondjag28 - 02-28-2017, 10:41 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Eric1 - 02-28-2017, 10:44 PM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by diamondjag28 - 02-28-2017, 10:50 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by temporaryname - 02-28-2017, 10:54 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 02-28-2017, 11:21 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jagherd - 03-01-2017, 09:39 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by MalabarJag - 03-01-2017, 10:39 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Bullseye - 03-01-2017, 11:58 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by JackCity - 03-01-2017, 12:24 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 03-01-2017, 04:46 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jaguarmvp - 03-01-2017, 06:36 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by flgatorsandjags - 03-01-2017, 06:48 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by jagforlife85 - 03-01-2017, 07:32 PM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Bullseye - 03-02-2017, 01:05 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 03-02-2017, 01:12 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by TheAll22 - 03-02-2017, 01:14 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Bullseye - 03-02-2017, 01:29 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 03-02-2017, 01:32 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 03-02-2017, 01:33 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by GlockBortles - 03-02-2017, 01:34 AM
Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by KYjaggy - 03-02-2017, 01:36 AM
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Why retain Dave Caldwell? - by Bullseye - 03-03-2017, 02:49 PM
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