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MalabarJag · 10-03-2017, 08:20 PM

(10-03-2017, 07:57 PM)hb1148 Wrote:
(09-30-2017, 11:12 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
Statistics show whites are twice as likely to be killed by cops as either blacks or hispanics in the US.

The actual data:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/...shootings/

And the analysis:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/18/a...ng-result/

I'm not sure why you think opportunity is less for blacks, there are laws that mandate diversity, even ahead of ability. Asian Americans are hugely discriminated against in college admissions just to keep the diversity levels similar to their proportion in the general population.

If anything, the government discriminates in favor of African Americans in college admissions, hiring laws, and police interaction. One can argue that even more should be done to make up for the centuries of disadvantage before the Civil Rights Act, but not that the opportunity is less at present in the US.

The figures you posted are correct but your conclusions are wrong. They number of people shot by police compared to the people of any race shot by police disregards the proportion of each race in the population at large. In fact the chances of anyone being a victim of police violence is relatively small but considering the sample size, minorities are represented in a higher proportion. Here's an analysis explaining this misconception.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...a2e5adf3e0

The lack of opportunity for minorities are represented by the lower proportion achieving higher degrees, a higher unemployment rate in that community, a lower average net worth proportionately, a higher proportion living in poverty, etc. The Civil Rights Act was an attempt to eliminate Jim Crow in practice and level the playing field and has in some instances but minorities still face discrimination and a lack of progress in these areas.

Did you read my links?

You can't just compare things to the general population. The analysis in my second link compared the racial distribution of people shot by police to the number of felony arrests. If you just compare numbers to the general population then you'd have to say that men are grossly discriminated against compared to women because almost every person shot by the police is male.

Likewise, counting graduates or jobs vs. the general population is meaningless. That could be an indication that the opportunity is less, but it could equally well be a result of many other factors. You'd have to show a predominance of cases where people with equal abilities do not get equal treatment. If you have such a link I'll be glad to read it (but I can't read the WaPo, it blocks me).

As far as colleges, the federal government (you know, the one represented by the flag) has mandated diversity. Many states even have a de facto quota system that favors black applicants, and the Supreme court has allowed it. Businesses have a federal incentive to hire minorities too. Discriminating against the best available employee is a losing business practice.

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