(10-06-2017, 08:50 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(10-06-2017, 03:41 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: They were at the room in about 11-12 minutes. There was no other way out. 

It took an hour to get into the room because the shooting had stopped. You don't just kick open the door to an active-shooter. That's how you get killed.

True, it's very risky for the cops outside the door. But you need to weigh that with the risk to the civilians who are still alive and still in the line of fire. Being cautious about entering the room might have cost another 50 lives.

And are you 100% sure there was no other way out? The two broken windows were pretty far from each other, which suggests two connected rooms, each with its own exit.

JnG is right, the cops don't just go "gangbusters" and kick in doors as portrayed by Hollywood, especially if the shooting had stopped.  Had the shooting still been going on that might have been a different story.  According to the timeline that I read, the shooting started at approximately 10:05 and stopped at approximately 10:15.  The officers on scene were there at approximately 10:17.  Between 10:26 and 10:30 eight other officers showed up and started clearing rooms one-by-one.  This is the proper thing to do, especially since there was no shooting going on.

Keep in mind, the first officers on the scene were NOT the SWAT team, they were every day patrol officers (though some might be members of the SWAT team).  You don't just go around busting in doors during an active shooter type of situation, especially if the shooting had stopped.  As I said before, if the shooting was still going on it would have been a different scenario for these officers and they might have responded differently.

People need to keep in mind that this whole thing was a high stress situation on everybody including the officers that initially responded.  Many people look back in hindsight and think that more could have/should have been done.

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