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Florida Times Union - Smallest crowd of Khan Era sees Jaguars lose to Rams

(This post was last modified: 10-19-2017, 10:39 PM by MalabarJag.)

(10-19-2017, 07:02 PM)hb1148 Wrote:
(10-19-2017, 06:49 PM)Jest101 Wrote: To use fallen soldiers as a reason that we should support kneeling players is pathetic and undermines their sacrifice.

It's patriotic to stand.  It is your right to kneel, but it is not patriotic.

Which is why the NFL is falling from their place as the (former) greatest sport in the world.

It's patriotic to exercise your constitutional rights. Unquestioned allegiance to a symbol is how fascist dictatorships start.

That's ridiculous. I have a constitutional right to own a gun, but I wouldn't call myself patriotic for owning one. A traitor has a constitutional right to not bear witness against himself; does that make him patriotic?

The problem here is that the players involved are protesting the USA in general by their actions, rather than the actual problem they perceive. But maybe I'm wrong. Please explain to us how the anthem (or the country it represents) is the problem that needs to be addressed.

(10-19-2017, 09:50 PM)jradMITEX Wrote: What trips me out is the same people that are in uproar over the kneeling are the same people who didn't even care when Trump insulted John McCain as not being a hero because he was captured.  Somehow an actual direct overt action of disrespect to a soldier doesn't register but a kneeling player during the anthem whips them up in a frenzy, hypocritical to say the least.

I'm pretty sure most (maybe not all, but most) of the conservatives here agreed that Trump was over the line in his comment about McCain. I certainly found it offensive and stupid and said so.




                                                                          

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RE: Florida Times Union - Smallest crowd of Khan Era sees Jaguars lose to Rams - by MalabarJag - 10-19-2017, 10:36 PM



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