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Alabama -- In or Out?

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(This post was last modified: 11-27-2017, 02:43 PM by rfc17.)

If Oklahoma and Wisconsin win, then the committee will have nothing to think about. SEC champ, ACC champ, Wisconsin, Oklahoma. Saying that, I think there are two scenarios which would create some serious conversation.

1) If Oklahoma wins and Ohio St wins. The point of your thread... do you take a 1 loss Bama over 2 loss Ohio St? The committee's job isn't to pick the four best conference champs, it's to pick the four best teams. My gut tells me they really wouldnt want to put 2 teams in from the same conference if they can avoid it. And Ohio St should be close enough to Bama in the rankings that it'd be easy for the committee to leapfrog them. Plus Bama's resume isn't obviously better. Ohio St's two best wins(Penn St and Wisconsin) would be better than Bama's best win which would help offset the fact Ohio St has more losses including a horrific one to Iowa. I think it'll be really interesting to see where these teams are in the newest ranking. But my gut tells me the committee takes Ohio St. I personally am on the fence. That loss to Iowa is tough for me to overlook.

2)If Oklahoma loses and Ohio St wins. I find this to be far and away the most interesting scenario. I don't see how in the world you take 2 loss Ohio St over 2 loss Oklahoma considering the fact the Sooners beat them pretty easily on the road in Columbus. They'll have just as many top 10 wins, better losses, and obviously the head to head victory on the road. Does Ohio St get a pass due to timing because their second loss was a 30 point drubbing in the regular season while Oklahoma's came in the conference title game in a rematch against what would be a top 10 team they had already beat? Seems crazy to me. The only trump card Ohio St has is they can say they were conference champs but that didnt apply last year obviously. A 2 loss OU deserves to be in over Ohio St. Now lets say reason prevails and you agree Oklahoma is more deserving than Ohio St, what does that mean for Bama? In scenario 1, we already decided Ohio St was in over Bama. Nothing else has changed that would suggest Bama should now get in over Ohio St. So if we've got OU over Ohio St and Ohio St over Bama, shouldnt OU be in over Bama? So now who do you take for the four playoff teams? Would you now include Bama over Ohio St even though nothing at all is different now? Can you include OU and leave out Big 12 champ TCU who also has just two losses and just beat them? It starts to become pretty complicated. And I think the easy way out would be to just take Ohio St and Bama. But that would make a mockery of the system if you're best reasoning for excluding Oklahoma instead of Ohio St has nothing to do with win/loss records, performance, head to head matchup, etc... but instead because it makes this exercise easier for you as the committee.


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Alabama -- In or Out? - by HURRICANE!!! - 11-27-2017, 12:38 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by rfc17 - 11-27-2017, 02:43 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by HURRICANE!!! - 11-27-2017, 04:21 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by rfc17 - 11-28-2017, 01:20 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by jaglou53 - 11-27-2017, 08:10 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by HURRICANE!!! - 11-28-2017, 03:56 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Kane - 11-28-2017, 05:39 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by HURRICANE!!! - 11-29-2017, 02:26 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Kane - 11-30-2017, 11:12 AM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Jaguarmeister - 11-30-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Kane - 11-30-2017, 01:08 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by rfc17 - 11-30-2017, 01:40 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Cleatwood - 11-30-2017, 02:01 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by rfc17 - 11-30-2017, 02:59 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by HURRICANE!!! - 11-30-2017, 03:55 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Cleatwood - 11-30-2017, 01:05 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Jaguarmeister - 11-30-2017, 04:55 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by HURRICANE!!! - 12-01-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Jaguarmeister - 12-03-2017, 01:18 AM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Cleatwood - 12-02-2017, 09:22 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by TheSchmidt - 12-03-2017, 12:16 AM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-03-2017, 07:25 AM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Cleatwood - 12-03-2017, 09:14 AM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by rfc17 - 12-03-2017, 10:42 AM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by rfc17 - 12-03-2017, 11:16 AM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by HURRICANE!!! - 12-03-2017, 01:36 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Achilles - 12-03-2017, 01:45 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Upper - 12-03-2017, 01:59 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by scottyg - 12-04-2017, 05:44 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by mikesez - 01-02-2018, 02:01 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Kane - 01-03-2018, 01:02 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by HURRICANE!!! - 01-03-2018, 01:19 PM
RE: Alabama -- In or Out? - by Kane - 01-03-2018, 02:17 PM



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