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NRA gets OWNED

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(02-28-2018, 10:15 PM)rollerjag Wrote: Do you guys keep lotion and paper towels handy when you talk about guns?

What's the recoil of an AR-15 vs. 30-06?

Can a 30-06 be fitted with multi-round magazines with a capacity matching an AR-15?

Does 30-06 ammunition "tumble" like .223 bullets, thus causing more widespread damage to human flesh?

Can a 30-06 be as easily fired braced against the hip as an AR-15, and thus easier to stabilize when shooting multiple targets, especially when considering the recoil (see question 2)?

Can a 30-06 be easily customized with a forward hand grip or a carry handle?

Does the pistol grip on an AR-15 actually give it an advantage beyond looking cool?

Could the Parkland shooter have killed as many as easily with a 30-06 as he did with an AR-15?

My nephew, a Naval officer and certainly no snowflake, cited these feature when explaining why AR-15s are a more effective and efficient weapon to use by relatively untrained mass shooters than weapons like a 30-06.

To answer your questions.

The recoil on an AR-15 is minimal, especially when compared to a 30-06.

30-06 ammunition for the most part doesn't "tumble".  .223 bullets will "tumble" since they aren't "high powered".  This doesn't happen at "close" range (less than 50 yards) or maybe more depending on conditions.

A 30-06 could be fired from the hip, but I wouldn't recommend it.  Also shooting a rifle in that manner defeats the purpose of the weapon.

A 30-06 can be customized just as much as you want.  I'm not sure what you mean by "forward grip" since a rifle is shot by holding up the forward part of the stock.  If the "scary black" portion of a sporting rifle is considered a "grip" I suppose that a 30-06 could be fitted with one.  I'm also not sure what you mean by "carry handle".  I would never carry a rifle by the barrel personally.

The pistol grip on any gun isn't there for aesthetics, it's there to make the gun more comfortable to shoot.  I personally like it because it gives me a little more control.  I don't have a pistol grip on my 30-06, but my shotgun does have one.

Regarding your question about the Parkland shooter, it depends on his skill level.

The bottom line here is it's not the tool chosen by the killer, it's the mental state.  I and many of my friends own firearms of different makes/models and we use them in a responsible and safe manner.  Just last weekend I had a friend over on my property bring a couple of firearms to shoot and we had fun shooting at beer cans and fruit just to see what they would do.  A couple of the firearms were what the uneducated left calls "assault weapons".  Nobody got killed or hurt and we are all responsible members of the NRA and all have a CWP.

The laws that these gun activists are pushing would deny me and my friends from doing something that we enjoy.

It's not the guns...  It's the mental health of those that get them legally.


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NRA gets OWNED - by TJBender - 02-24-2018, 07:05 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TrivialPursuit - 02-24-2018, 07:09 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by jj82284 - 02-24-2018, 08:06 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by flsprtsgod - 02-24-2018, 08:07 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 02-25-2018, 02:26 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by FBT - 02-25-2018, 02:41 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 02-26-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by americus 2.0 - 02-26-2018, 06:39 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by MalabarJag - 02-26-2018, 08:52 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 02-27-2018, 07:34 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by MalabarJag - 02-27-2018, 08:45 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by Sneakers - 02-25-2018, 02:50 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 02-26-2018, 05:05 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TrivialPursuit - 02-26-2018, 05:12 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by flsprtsgod - 02-26-2018, 05:14 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by copycat - 02-26-2018, 06:54 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 02-27-2018, 07:18 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by copycat - 02-27-2018, 08:10 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by Sneakers - 02-26-2018, 10:27 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 02-27-2018, 07:29 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by copycat - 02-27-2018, 08:24 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by wrong_box - 03-01-2018, 02:38 AM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by B2hibry - 02-25-2018, 06:59 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by Sneakers - 02-24-2018, 09:03 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by B2hibry - 02-24-2018, 10:13 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by copycat - 02-25-2018, 12:26 AM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by Teal Time Radio - 02-26-2018, 12:10 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by flsprtsgod - 02-26-2018, 12:16 PM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TrivialPursuit - 02-26-2018, 12:28 PM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TheO-LineMatters - 02-25-2018, 05:46 AM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by homebiscuit - 02-25-2018, 11:11 AM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 02-25-2018, 02:30 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by americus 2.0 - 02-25-2018, 04:23 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by copycat - 02-26-2018, 06:45 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by The Drifter - 02-26-2018, 06:01 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TJBender - 02-27-2018, 12:23 AM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by lastonealive - 02-26-2018, 09:09 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by MalabarJag - 02-26-2018, 11:32 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by B2hibry - 02-27-2018, 10:08 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by homebiscuit - 02-27-2018, 11:06 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 02-27-2018, 10:51 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by JagNGeorgia - 02-27-2018, 10:59 PM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by flsprtsgod - 02-27-2018, 11:57 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 02-28-2018, 04:26 AM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by flsprtsgod - 02-28-2018, 07:13 AM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TJBender - 02-28-2018, 12:12 AM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 02-28-2018, 04:36 AM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TJBender - 02-28-2018, 11:08 AM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by jagibelieve - 02-28-2018, 08:31 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by Cleatwood - 02-28-2018, 08:41 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by copycat - 02-28-2018, 08:50 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TJBender - 03-11-2018, 10:15 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by jj82284 - 02-28-2018, 11:13 AM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by lastonealive - 02-28-2018, 09:24 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 02-28-2018, 10:15 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by flsprtsgod - 02-28-2018, 10:34 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by jagibelieve - 02-28-2018, 11:01 PM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by rollerjag - 03-12-2018, 06:17 PM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TheO-LineMatters - 04-29-2018, 07:54 PM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by MyBloodIsTeal - 03-06-2018, 07:26 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by B2hibry - 03-07-2018, 09:08 AM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by homebiscuit - 03-07-2018, 05:15 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-12-2018, 12:06 AM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TJBender - 03-12-2018, 12:54 PM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by JagNGeorgia - 04-24-2018, 02:37 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TheO-LineMatters - 04-30-2018, 12:38 AM
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RE: NRA gets OWNED - by homebiscuit - 05-01-2018, 01:54 PM
RE: NRA gets OWNED - by TrivialPursuit - 05-01-2018, 02:45 PM
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