(02-28-2018, 10:15 PM)rollerjag Wrote: Do you guys keep lotion and paper towels handy when you talk about guns?

What's the recoil of an AR-15 vs. 30-06?

Can a 30-06 be fitted with multi-round magazines with a capacity matching an AR-15?

Does 30-06 ammunition "tumble" like .223 bullets, thus causing more widespread damage to human flesh?

Can a 30-06 be as easily fired braced against the hip as an AR-15, and thus easier to stabilize when shooting multiple targets, especially when considering the recoil (see question 2)?

Can a 30-06 be easily customized with a forward hand grip or a carry handle?

Does the pistol grip on an AR-15 actually give it an advantage beyond looking cool?

Could the Parkland shooter have killed as many as easily with a 30-06 as he did with an AR-15?

My nephew, a Naval officer and certainly no snowflake, cited these feature when explaining why AR-15s are a more effective and efficient weapon to use by relatively untrained mass shooters than weapons like a 30-06.

No, but I have a rather nice Franchi o/u that I only polish with a diaper.

First of all, AR-15 is a model of gun, only available in .223 caliber.  30-06 is a caliber available in numerous models (though most commonly in a bolt action 'hunting rifle" design).
Recoil is Newton's Third Law of Motion coming into play.  Muzzle energy of a .223 is about 1,300 ft/lbs., whereas a 30-06 is more than double that, at 2,800.  "Felt" recoil is a product of muzzle energy acting on the mass of the gun.  A semi-automatic action absorbs some of this energy in cycling the reloading process, which a bolt action does not, thus reducing relative recoil in any caliber.

Yes, though they're not widely available for most models.

All ammo "tumbles" at some point.  Muzzle velocity, bullet configuration and barrel twist are the variables.  By the way, increased tumble = decreased accuracy.  At the range we're talking here, it's a non factor.  Beyond that, any knowledgeable shooter uses ammo designed for the job at hand, soft point, hollow point, etc.

Yes, but good luck trying to hit anything smaller than a minivan.  That's strictly TV stuff.

Sure.  I even have a suitcase customized with such a handle.

The grip on any gun is an advantage over no grip.  That being said, some shotguns have a straight stock, without a grip, which is known as an English stock.  I have an SKB 280 in such a configuration and I find it to be extremely quick-pointing.  

Caliber versus gun again, but a 30-06 is a far more deadly round, so yes.

Your nephew may know torpedoes, but firearms..............not so much.

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