(07-16-2018, 07:53 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(07-16-2018, 04:59 PM)pirkster Wrote: Mueller is willfully feeding the divide within, doing Putin's job for him in Mueller's arrogance to sway opinion and feed the left - weakening our country and President.

He placed himself on stage with the leaders, made himself a headline (a talking point, particularly driven by the... you guessed it, media.)

I appreciate what Trump did there.  Mueller's "indictments" were never intended to see trial.  They were merely a political statement.  None of those Russians will ever be heard before a judge (and more importantly, Mueller and team will never have to actually present any evidence.)

Keep in mind, Rosenstein's statement made it abundantly CLEAR that the election wasn't swayed by a single vote.  Why is it that it appears the left half of America doesn't believe this?  He stated this in plain English.  It's officially been documented.  Yet the narrative prevails with the left that Russia actually affected the election and wanted Trump to win.  All while the facts show they played both sides (Michael Moore even famously attended an anti-Trump rally paid for by Russia.)

Contrast that with how the media is presenting this to you, and it's clear the media is complicit with this false narrative.

Was there probing of data?  Yes.  Did it affect the outcome?  No.  Do we and have we done the same to Russia and other countries?  Absolutely.  We would be insane not to.

Do achievers complain and moan about rule breaking or cheating?  The best don't.  The best go out and win regardless of the obstacles in their way.  If the US was ramping up their espionage and counterespionage efforts against Russia, it would be a poor move to announce it up front and at this meeting.  Keep your friends close.  Keep your enemies closer.  While the forces who are also against Trump prematurely show their hand, Trump (even after meeting face to face) still has not yet revealed his to Putin.

But the other movie playing on the same screen shows that Trump is the bad guy and he's colluding with Putin.  There's no universe or train of thought where that has or will ever make any sense whatsoever.

Because, you must remember - and the media is purposefully omitting by not reminding you, that the Russian probing began during 0bama, and was known during that time.  It's again Trumps job to clean it all up after the fact... not only with Russian relations, but fixing what is so broken within our intelligence as well.  There are still many unanswered questions about how it was handled up to now.

I think most of the events you describe are true and are factual. 
Some of what you say cannot be known unless we knew what was inside Mueller's heart or people in the media is hearts.
But let's leave that part out.
Trump doesn't have to announce that he's punishing Russia today, or that we're starting massive counter-intelligence today.
He should at least acknowledge that the Russians bought ads and conducted Espionage with the purpose of helping him get elected. He doesn't have to admit that it had any impact, just say that it happened.