(09-09-2018, 08:37 PM)mikesez Wrote: (09-09-2018, 07:05 PM)jj82284 Wrote: Out of respect, I'm going to just let u try again.
The whole Russia Trump narrative was a political response to the embarrassment of the Russia hack. It INCLUDED the direct surveillance of American citizens by state actors in violation of their constitutional rights. The fact that the Trump campaign DIDNT do anything wrong doesn't excuse the attempts by her satellites to spy on and provide propaganda against his campaign associates.
You're begging the question. You're not answering my question.
1) DoJ, in spying on the Trump campaign, did not collide with any candidate or any party or any PAC.
2) DoJ may have violated constitutional rights of some, I don't know, but it wasn't done with the intent or result of hurting Trump or helping Hillary.
My only question, for the third time, is do you have specific evidence to show that (1) or (2) is not true?
1.)Apparently you're unaware that Bruce ohr the #4 at doj and the conduit for the Steele dossier to the doj was married to nellie ohr who was payed by fusion GPS on behalf of Hillary Clinton working on opposition research against the Trump campaign. He went on to violate DOJ Policy and not disclose the information or recuse himself from any involvement, quite the contrary he vouched for Steele and continued to funnel his lies even after he was fired.
2.) Are u out of ur mind? I'm going to give u the benefit of the doubt and assume u just don't know what ur talking about. Popadopolus was solicited by American intelligence and then an australisn diplomat that, surprise surprise, was a donor to the clinton foundation who made a call about an alleged drunken outburst and the kid is charged with a crime for not remembering. Michael Flynn's rights were clearly violated to illegally unmask him, leak the call transcript and basically do a formal FBI interview without proper notice to retain council. Not to harm anyone on the Trump campaign? Lol. That's rich.
Just ask the people involved, the guy who wrote Comeys exoneration of Clinton and opened the Russia investigation has written messages about needing an insurance policy against Trump and coming up with plans in the office of the deputy director of the FBI to stop his election. That's more damaging than the FURMAN TAPES. Bruce ohr admitted that the Steele dossier wouldn't stand up in court abd that it was the result of Michael Steele bias and his "desperate" need for Trump not to get elected. He also said that everyone knew it. That means that the FBI director, the deputy FBI director the former deputy ag and the current deputy ag perjured themselves to the for a court to obtain a FISA warrant against Carter Page.
What part don't u get exactly? There's a direct money trail from the clinton campaign to the bank account of the #4 official at the doj to spread disinformation about the Trump campaign. There are emails and text messages demonstrating the clear bias on behalf of those in charge of this sham. These are the facts of the case, and they are undisputed.
