(01-09-2019, 07:06 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: It never ceases to amaze me how some people want to trade away or cut some of our best players... just for the sake of change and/or for draft picks.  Take a look at the big picture and the circumstances this past season.  The defense was on the field way too long in many games and were playing from behind more often than not.

I don't think it was Jags02's intentions. I just think it was just him playing Devil's Advocate during the dead zone. Everybody does seem to want to ship off the usual suspects and for good reason. But it's hard to net much return value on [BLEEP] hats like that. I like Telvin. I don't want to see him go personally. It was a hypothetical question. 

I think he has at least a value of an early 2nd RD pick. The outside linebacker position is valued differently based upon the scheme in which a defense operates. Guys like Smith tend to get shoved a back little bit further on the shelf for guys like Von Miller and Khalil Mack who effect the passing game a lot more frequently by playing close to the L.O.S with a hand or two in the dirt. 

I think Telvin would actually make for an intriguing ILB in a 3 - 4 scheme. He's very instinctive. Plays sideline to sideline as good as anybody out there. And I agree with you 110%. For what it's worth. The defense DID NOT cost us too many games in 2018. They still managed to get it done in spite of being faced with a historically piss poor offense. It's a lot to ask one unit to carry an entire football team. 

Ask the Bears how they feel right now about Mack. Was he worth it? I don't know now. Same can be said for the Ravens and how well their defense played in 2018. If your offense can't outscore it's kicker at home though what good is having Mack out there? So... I don't know.

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