(01-21-2020, 11:18 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(01-21-2020, 11:12 AM)Kane Wrote: Well I'm not sure how you define success because a lot of them fail being on bad teams.
Jones and Murray both found some success this year (and they are on bad teams)
Mayfield was pretty good as a rookie.
Lamar Jackson, the guy getting so much love in this thread is younger than Burrow and had tons of success right? A kid surrounded by men all over the field, juking em out their shoes.
You're talking about 1 year or so being the difference in being all-pro? That stuff comes with many years, usually. That's why it isn't stacked with 2nd year players either.
Yeah being older matters when its quite a few years. 1 year or 2 doesn't matter as much as the weight you're trying to put on it (or maybe back peddling with a bit now saying "not a massive one")
Burrow was good because he was good, not because he was 23 and guys on Clemson's defense are 19-21
The difference from 22 year old Burrow and 23 year old Burrow was coaching and scheme. Not some magic that happened in a year and made him bigger, stronger, faster, and better lol

Let me ask you this. If you took a team of 23 year old division 1 athletes and had them play in college, how would that turn out? 

I'm not saying Burrows age is the end all be all but it absolutely played a small part. He was able to see things for 5 years. 5 years of coverages. And if the difference for Burrow was coaching and scheme, should he really be the #1 pick?

I'm just trying to play both sides here instead of just labeling this dude the next great thing.