(11-18-2019, 11:06 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:

(11-17-2019, 07:12 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Kinlaw is 6'6" 310 lbs. and a very good run stuffer. I don't conform to the idea a NT has to be a "wide body". Jay Ratliff was a good NT and he was like 6'4" 290 lbs., besides, Kinlaw is long and could easily add weight to his frame. 

We see things differently as well.  I like a plugger that will stuff the line and take on the immediate impact and leave the backfield penetration to our DEs (and LB/Safeties on blitz schemes).  I watched way too much of the AFC North in the early 2000's and love the style of play of Casey Hampton and Hiloti Ngata, neither of which had and excessive amount of sacks or tackles for loss.  They just made the DEs and LBs/Safeties better since they could tee off against the QBs, knowing the middle was plugged.  Give me someone in the middle that is low to the ground.

Ngata consistently collapsed the pocket. He had 32.5 sacks over the course of his career. As far as Hampton, he was in a 3-4 scheme his entire career, it's a whole different animal than what we'd be asking a NT to do. I'm not talking about getting a NT who can get double digit sacks, but 3-5 per season shouldn't be out of the question. I just want someone who shows the ability to do more than just stuff the run. I want him to be more of a complete DT. If we have a one dimensional run stuffer on the field and the opponent drops back to pass, we get no penetration. I really liked the fact that when we first got Dareus, he could stuff the run, but he also created pressure in the middle. Instead of getting another Abry Jones type DT who strictly is in to stop the run (not very well either), I'd rather have a younger version of Dareus, who was multi-faceted. If we ran a 3-4 defense, a wide bodied run plugger only, would be fine, but in a 4-3 scheme, you need something more.

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(11-18-2019, 04:06 PM)Kane Wrote:

(11-04-2019, 03:18 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Regardless of size, I want a guy who can stop the run and put inside pressure on opposing QB's. Outside of Derrick Brown of Auburn (who will be a top 5-7 pick) and Kinlaw, I don't see another DT in this draft who can do that.

We may be in position to get Brown after what we just witnessed Sunday.
Currently we sit at 13th according to fanspeak. (11th according to tankathon)... We may not win another game, or maybe just one.
If we finish with 5 wins... we'll be picking top ten.

I could see us picking top 5
Cincy, Washington, NYJ, Miami, JaX/NYG/Tampa/ATL/Detroit/Chicago
I think ATL, LAC, Cleveland and Denver finish with 5 or 6 wins at least.

If we were able to get Brown, I'd be ecstatic. He's exactly the type of NT I want. I'd probably even try to trade up a couple spots to get him, as long as we didn't have to use multiple first rounders.

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