(01-30-2020, 07:37 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:

(01-30-2020, 05:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: Are you saying what Biden did is bad?
What if he had chosen to run for president in 2016?
What if, right after he did this, he told everyone that he only did it so that he could win his next election?
Then it wouldn't be bad, right? All forgiven?

As far as your first question, well yes.  That is in fact a quid-pro-quo or as the democrats originally put it, "bribery".  What President Trump said in the phone call is not near to what this was.

If he chose to run in the 2016 election he wouldn't have had a chance.  The DNC establishment already had Hillary as the chosen one.

The fact of the matter is, he didn't do this to win an election, he did it for money.

I'm actually not going to disagree with you, up to this point.
In reality, Biden had no chance in 2016. 
I don't know his real motives for messing with Ukraine, but it's certainly plausible he did it for money.
But what if Hillary was out of the picture, and Biden told us he did it for votes? What if we all believed him when he said it? And what if a lot of other smart people were saying that Ukraine's prosecutor hadn't done anything wrong? Meaning, if those smart people were right, there was no good reason, other than getting votes, for Biden to do that.
Would that have been okay?

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