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MalabarJag · 02-02-2020, 09:21 PM

(02-02-2020, 08:46 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-02-2020, 08:01 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: Check your premises!

1. Trump didn't abuse his power.

2. Trump's goal wasn't to get Joe Biden into the news. Read the transcript.

3. Trump didn't get Biden into the news. That was done by the Democrats by pushing a lame excuse for impeachment. Biden's quid pro quo for family money would likely have never come to light had Schiff and Ciaramella not conspired to overturn the 2016 election.

1) Republican senators are conceding the point that he abused his powers. Because he did.

2) Read the text messages.

3) Guiliani was going on TV talking about this Biden-Ukraine narrative for three or four months before the phone call. Which was totally legal for him to do. Trump's people could have done more of that. They could have recruited Shokin, now a private citizen, to play along even.

1. They're going to throw out the accusations Wednesday. So no, just because two or three Republican Senators said that (or maybe they just said that IF he abused his powers it was too insignificant on which to base an impeachment) doesn't make it true.

2. I read the text message you posted. It didn't say what you claimed. In any case the impeachment was about the phone call in which Biden was only mentioned in passing.

3. Guilliani was on TV saying Biden-Ukraine? How do you know since you claim you don't watch TV?

3b. Your point that bringing in Ukraine to investigate Biden was unnecessary is a strong point towards understanding that Trump wasn't asking for that, and against all of the presumptions you have to accept in order for this to be anything but another nothingburger.

"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"