(02-05-2020, 04:09 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: (02-05-2020, 04:02 PM)Kane Wrote: No one is saying he sucked.
He was just upsold pre draft as a franchise changing, 15 year, next big thing at QB. The next "Manning, Brady, whatever"
And he wasn't. He wasn't anything better than a number of other middling franchise QBs. (He's closer to Philip Rivers or Eli, than Manning or Brady) He had a penchant for throwing a lot of INTs and overall wasn't great in the playoffs.
Did he have an all-star OL? no. Most QBs don't. But he didn't elevate his team and had Reggie Wayne for his first few and TY Hilton his entire career. He had a better roster than the majority of AFCS squads during his time (and racked up most of his wins versus those bad teams)
First overall pick turned in less than a decade of a career and 4 playoff wins. And very good but not really great stats honestly.
Not saying the guy was bad. Just never bought the hype and certainly ain't buying it now. He was good but it isn't insane to say that he wasn't what he was supposed to be or what everyone thought he would be.
It isn't a bias thing.
Watson, very good, proved me wrong after only 2 seasons... thought he was being oversold.
Hopkins, top 3 WR in the league his entire career....
Henry is a beast...
I got no problem giving credit to rivals when it is due...
+1k Luck was decent most definitely but the hype was atrocious. Alot of QBs get hyped up so its not his fault. The media does it every year just to try and be first when a player does have a great career. Us fans probably hit on that more than they do.
Indeed. Pre-injury Tua was getting the same sort of hype.
However, I saw Tua as a different QB behind a 'meh' OL vs top tier defenses (Clemson in Natty). He has plenty of talent but can he do as well at the next level under duress against better defenses... and now, can he stay healthy (fragile fred syndrome)
Burrow has his own bit of hype, however, I have yet to see the type of hype of the likes of what Luck was getting. Luck was supposed to be system proof (and thus HC and roster proof) he wasn't. I'm sure Luck would have done better under Reid. Most QBs probably would. That's a terrible argument in favor of why Luck was better than he showed lol
It isn't the QBs fault when they receive such hype (Don't hate Tebow for his media coverage) and I don't blame Luck for his hype, I blame media, draftniks, and fans --namely those suck for Luck campaigners--.
Those Luck fans, that would gladly take a 1 win season to net that QB got just as many rings as the Jaguars, tacks, and tinhorns in those 7 years. And only 3 more (worthless) playoff wins than our very own hapless Jags. Sure the 11 win seasons would have been nice, hell they would have been great, and honestly, I would have loved to have Luck.
My point is circles back to what I was trying to say before Luck fan-boys got butt hurt lol... multiple first rounders are going to be more valuable to me than any 1 QB, unless you can somehow guarantee he's the next Brady and even then... When it comes to roster building, I think the roster/team as a whole matters more than the QB. (We were a quarter of football away from the SB with Blake freakin Bortles)
