(09-12-2020, 07:06 AM)jj82284 Wrote:

(09-11-2020, 11:05 PM)mikesez Wrote: Canada didn't have the snafus with testing that we had early on.
They also already had the cultural norm that it's OK for a worker to stay home when they are sick. 
We are only now developing that norm.  So many employers lumped vacation and sick days into the nebulous "PTO" category.  People here are still saying, gosh, I'm sick, but I don't want to lose my PTO..
Canadians care about good government and they take care of each other, but I don't think the universal health insurance specifically played a role in reducing transmission.  I suppose there may have been some employers demanding a doctor's note if you're going to stay home sick, and in theory it's easier to get a doctor's note in a country where it costs nothing to see a doctor, but we both know that's not what actually happened.

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I mean, yeah, when you have the population density of Tokyo or Hong Kong but no mask wearing in the first months after we know about the virus, that's what happens.

Why not in the dense parts of Sweden?

(09-11-2020, 11:13 PM)p_rushing Wrote: The US has an aging population and a bunch of those people have health issues because of life choices and family medical history things that are inherited. Look at the #s where people only died with covid. Most of the people died of something else because their body couldn't handle both. These were not healthy people for the most part. The # is less than 10%.

Look those people should have been protected, just like they need to protect themselves every year during the flu season. Having health issues make it easier for you to die. The rest of the normal killers are all way down this year because everything is being marked as covid.

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(09-11-2020, 11:31 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(09-11-2020, 11:05 PM)mikesez Wrote: Canada didn't have the snafus with testing that we had early on.
They also already had the cultural norm that it's OK for a worker to stay home when they are sick. 
We are only now developing that norm.  So many employers lumped vacation and sick days into the nebulous "PTO" category.  People here are still saying, gosh, I'm sick, but I don't want to lose my PTO..
Canadians care about good government and they take care of each other, but I don't think the universal health insurance specifically played a role in reducing transmission.  I suppose there may have been some employers demanding a doctor's note if you're going to stay home sick, and in theory it's easier to get a doctor's note in a country where it costs nothing to see a doctor, but we both know that's not what actually happened.

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I mean, yeah, when you have the population density of Tokyo or Hong Kong but no mask wearing in the first months after we know about the virus, that's what happens.

Lol, you must not know many hourly workers. They use their PTO weekly when they feel fine and come to work when they feel sick.